(1) Prestige and (2) Overall fitness vs. Self-sacrifice in the context of a social group.pic.twitter.com/UZFdeebVs3
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(1) Prestige and (2) Overall fitness vs. Self-sacrifice in the context of a social group.pic.twitter.com/UZFdeebVs3
Lesson: Fitness landscape in the vicinity of a group isn't a mountain. It's a volcano surrounded by a moat.
@KevinSimler In many groups, the most prestigious individuals (kings, billionaires) do not self-sacrifice. Generalize about who/when/why?
@Meaningness Great point. Can you generalize? One factor is probably dominance-based vs. loyalty-based leadership.
@KevinSimler @Meaningness Is there a relationship to rent-seeking vs. innovation?
@paulbaumgart @Meaningness I don't immediately see one, but how are you thinking it might go?
@KevinSimler @Meaningness The more wealth-extractive your group, the more effective dominance can be, the more parasitical the leaders are?
@paulbaumgart @Meaningness OK yeah, makes sense. If your goal is to extract/be a parasite, you won't go beyond the lip of the volcano?
@KevinSimler @paulbaumgart Or maybe: there are multiple routes to prestige, accessible to different sorts of people; only some require s-s.
@Meaningness @paulbaumgart This has to be true. Although I might argue that all prestige requires s-s, but not all is -EV fitness-wise
@KevinSimler @paulbaumgart Why would all prestige require self-sacrifice? (Various people have argued that this is true only in Christianity
@Meaningness @paulbaumgart No one wants to follow a person who's always and only looking out for #1. Even kings lead troops into battle/etc.
@KevinSimler @paulbaumgart Not sure this is factually true :-)
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