I hoped that after taking a week off from the “ethics in mindfulness meditation” debate, it would all make sense. pic.twitter.com/YZpCTM2XQ8
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I hoped that after taking a week off from the “ethics in mindfulness meditation” debate, it would all make sense. pic.twitter.com/YZpCTM2XQ8
@Meaningness The primary importance of all systems of ethics is as a point of leverage to enforce group norms.
@Jayarava Yes… In the case of “Consensus Buddhism,” the norms are mainstream American leftish norms. This gets called “Buddhist ethics…”
@Jayarava I don’t have much quarrel with the norms, but the pretense that they are Buddhist rubs me the wrong way.
@Meaningness @Jayarava (not to interrupt - but is there specific ‘secularist’ text or texts you guys are critiquing?)
@jonathanglick @Jayarava I’m actually critiquing a critique of the secularists (but not defending the secularists). Plague on both houses!
@jonathanglick @Jayarava http://www.existentialbuddhist.com/2013/12/in-defense-of-mindfulness/ … is a fairly decent statement of the secularist side of the argument
@jonathanglick @Jayarava The locus classicus for the Buddhist side is http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ron-purser/beyond-mcmindfulness_b_3519289.html … one of the most incoherent rambles I’ve ever
@jonathanglick @Jayarava I’ve completed 8 out of 10 posts on this; will start running them when series is all written. Soon I hope!
@Meaningness @Jayarava Much appreciated. This is a closely connected to a conversation I have been having with Dan Harris.
@jonathanglick @Jayarava longer pseudo-academic versions are https://www.academia.edu/7326687/Traditional_and_Contemporary_Mindfulness_Finding_the_Middle_Path_in_the_Tangle_of_Concerns … (secular) & http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12671-014-0373-4 … (Buddhist)
@Meaningness @jonathanglick yeah. I can't even read this kind of drivel. skimmed the other one.
@Jayarava @jonathanglick Out of great compassion, I have read it at least five times. It doesn’t make any better sense when read closely.
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