@Meaningness @BuddhistGeeks and most in the 'debates' today don't make the distinction Keown mentions in the VSI.
@Buddhistethics @BuddhistGeeks I doubt any American Buddhist teachers actually recommend renunciation in the traditional sutric sense
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@Meaningness@BuddhistGeeks & http://www.elizabethmattisnamgyel.com/pdf/Renunciation.pdf … - There's more out there I'm sure; but it'll come in different forms. -
@Buddhistethics@BuddhistGeeks This is a whole pile of waffling, in which they all agree that renunciation is obsolete, so we’ll reuse > - 7 more replies
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@Buddhistethics@BuddhistGeeks Do you know Jose Cabezon’s excellent essay on Buddhist sexual ethics? http://www.lionsroar.com/rethinking-buddhism-and-sex/ … -
@Buddhistethics@BuddhistGeeks Points out that Americans think Buddhism says homosexuality is OK; it very clearly doesn’t; it’s just wrong - 2 more replies
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@Buddhistethics@BuddhistGeeks (which I covered here: https://meaningness.wordpress.com/2013/11/22/renunciation-in-buddhism/ …) . I could be wrong; are there exceptions? -
@Meaningness surprised you think Vajrayana rejects renunciation. Escapism, ok. But hello: common preliminaries. Especially for Mahamudra. - 1 more reply
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@Meaningness@BuddhistGeeks Somewhat agreeing with you perhaps, is Gil Fronsdal @GilFronsdalSays : http://www.insightmeditationcenter.org/books-articles/articles/renunciation/ … -
@Buddhistethics@BuddhistGeeks I like @GilFronsdalSays ’s writing a lot, and have cited it in many places. He’s waffling here, though.
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@Meaningness@BuddhistGeeks we can't expect 'traditional sutric sense' though as times have changed; Buddhism changes, as with all things. -
@Buddhistethics@BuddhistGeeks It has indeed changed; e.g., its few traditional ethical teachings have been replaced with American ones… - 1 more reply
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