@St_Rev asking questions like “so what is a real number” actually provoked visceral anxiety and therefore the angry response I got.
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@St_Rev because in fact you can’t get real numbers without actual infinities (Dedekind cuts or Cauchy sequences) and those were triggers2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@St_Rev Apparently constructivists tried to find ways to do analysis without any hidden actual infinities, but it was an abject failure.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@St_Rev So basically somewhere around 1960, everyone agreed just not to deal with the foundational crisis anymore and to get on with >1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@St_Rev doing-math-as-usual and trying to forget the whole thing. But they actually know the issues haven’t gone away, and are afraid2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Meaningness@St_Rev maybe also explains the feel I get that math and philosophy of math mostly view each other with fear and distrust2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @schakalsynthetc
@schakalsynthetc@St_Rev Yes, I think so… actually “contempt” was more what I got from math profs toward phil of math, but maybe masks fear1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@schakalsynthetc@St_Rev On other hand, scientists have simple contempt, not fear, for philosophy of science1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Meaningness@St_Rev generally yes, tho ofc with honorable exceptions on both sides. someone like Paul Teller isn't so easy to dismiss, e.g.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Meaningness@St_Rev it also doesn't help that so much well-known pop philosophy of science genuinely is pernicious, errant bullshit, tbf ;)1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
@schakalsynthetc @St_Rev Yes, very much
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