@jasonlouv @Tommi_M_Elo Oh, sure, but that’s not “Buddhist ethics” as promoted in America now.
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@Meaningness@Tommi_M_Elo Yes, but isn't it hanging out right behind the "Buddhist ethics" that is, essentially, the PR front of Lamaism?1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@jasonlouv@Tommi_M_Elo Hmm… I’d say that *Tibetan Buddhism* in America hides behind “Buddhist ethics” http://meaningness.wordpress.com/2013/11/27/vajrayana-is-not-tibetan-buddhism/ …1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Meaningness@Tommi_M_Elo What I'm pointing to is I see Vajrayana as currently practiced having more to do with hierarchy than liberation1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@jasonlouv@Tommi_M_Elo I agree, with an emphasis on “as currently practiced.”1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Meaningness@Tommi_M_Elo So what's the solution? I've followed your arguments on the Gelugpa whitewashing tantra, for instance1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@jasonlouv@Tommi_M_Elo Well, I wrote an overview here: http://meaningness.wordpress.com/2014/01/06/modern-buddhist-tantra/ … Does that start to answer your question?8 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Meaningness@Tommi_M_Elo But the lure of magic, the need to believe? That is the unspoken, unconscious taboo that fascinates.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@jasonlouv@Tommi_M_Elo Hmm. I think a majority of American Buddhists have an at least partly magical worldview. So I don’t think it’s taboo3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Meaningness@Tommi_M_Elo But it is a taboo for Western society at large. This is one reason why Westerners are drawn to Buddhism.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
@jasonlouv @Tommi_M_Elo Oh, yes, that’s probably true. And also that Protestantism was anti-magical, and that secularism is part of appeal
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Replying to @Meaningness
@Meaningness@Tommi_M_Elo Yes. But in a secularized world, magic now has the same draw as secularism had then... somewhat0 replies 0 retweets 0 likesThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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