After considering overnight: calling stream entry “enlightenment” does seem unhelpful. Too low a bar; too much more work to do.
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Replying to @Meaningness
@Meaningness Two helpful definitions of enlightenment - http://kennethfolkdharma.com/2012/02/enlightenment-for-the-rest-of-us-the-buddhist-geeks-conference/ … (End of Seeking) & http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/2007/03/thusnesss-six-stages-of-experience.html … (2Fold Emptiness)2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@justchap@Meaningness you could do worse than this too: http://ww.morpheusrising.com/arahats.shtml (with bonus@danielmingram bombast)1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@postreptilian@justchap@danielmingram My general reaction: http://meaningness.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/epistemology-and-enlightenment/ …4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Meaningness@postreptilian@danielmingram Your post is like saying newtonian physics=useless because experts don't agree on string theory.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @selfprime
@justchap@postreptilian@danielmingram Newtonian physics is easy to verify. I don’t think any claims about enlightenment are.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @Meaningness
@Meaningness@postreptilian@danielmingram Verify subjectively: Do I get the joke? Is I/objects/enlightenment/This empty? Do I seek?1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@justchap@postreptilian@danielmingram And then? What significance do the answers have? How do you know? Why should anyone agree?3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @Meaningness
@Meaningness@postreptilian@danielmingram 'How do you know?' - a key insight is that knowing is empty. Worrying about knowing = seeking.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@justchap@Meaningness another possibility is that 'how' questions, in the subjective realm, are answered not by 'thus' but by 'do this'2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
@postreptilian @justchap If you say “I tried that; it didn’t work”, they say “you didn’t try hard enough!” How do we know Buddhism is diff?
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Replying to @Meaningness
@Meaningness@justchap but is there an alternative? Same is true of science. Except introspectively it's like N-rays all the way down :)0 replies 0 retweets 0 likesThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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