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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 26 Apr 2013
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      @simplic10 @semiotechnic ...cardinal model supporting any given ordinal quantification, but it's not clear whether you'd gain any info.

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    2. the normie whisperer‏ @simplic10 26 Apr 2013
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      @St_Rev @semiotechnic >... if you choose Red Sox, seems to imply you think Red Sox victory has prob > 1/20 M.

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    3. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 26 Apr 2013
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      @simplic10 @semiotechnic ...but I don't think that implies that P(red sox victory) is quantifiable.

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    4. the normie whisperer‏ @simplic10 26 Apr 2013
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      @St_Rev @semiotechnic P(Red Sox Victory) is BOTH non-quantifiable AND has prob greater than 1/20M?

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    5. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 26 Apr 2013
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      @simplic10 @semiotechnic Yes. You're mistaking abuse of notation for proof. Here P and > are shorthand for looser concepts of likelihood.

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    6. the normie whisperer‏ @simplic10 26 Apr 2013
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      @St_Rev @semiotechnic My point is you can "sandwich" P(RedSoxVic) between two classic lottery probabilities... odd to say incommensurate.

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    7. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 26 Apr 2013
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      @simplic10 @semiotechnic I distinguished earlier between ordinal and cardinal likelihood. Compare to utility theory. To say u(X) > u(Y)...

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    8. the normie whisperer‏ @simplic10 26 Apr 2013
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      @St_Rev @semiotechnic What I find odd is that you are willing to say "a > X > b" but also "X is a completely different thing from a & c."

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    9. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 26 Apr 2013
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      @simplic10 @semiotechnic Or, 'the sky is a weasel' < 'the sky is indigo' < 'the sky is blue' < 'the sky is not a weasel'.

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    10. the normie whisperer‏ @simplic10 26 Apr 2013
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      @St_Rev @semiotechnic @Meaningness All of these sound like category errors to me.

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 26 Apr 2013
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      @simplic10 @St_Rev @semiotechnic That's kind of the point, isn't it? Some uncertainty can usefully be represented numerically, some can't.

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        2. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 26 Apr 2013
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          @Meaningness @simplic10 @semiotechnic In particular, *vagueness* and *ill-definedness* don't seem amenable to quantification.

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 26 Apr 2013
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          @St_Rev @simplic10 @semiotechnic I guess that's gone out of fashion.

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        2. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 26 Apr 2013
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          @Meaningness @simplic10 @semiotechnic ...nevertheless 'the sky is indigo' isn't entirely false. But 'the sky is blue' is *more true*.

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        3. the normie whisperer‏ @simplic10 26 Apr 2013
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          @St_Rev @Meaningness @semiotechnic These seem like fairly tractable definitional problems. Define blue as such&such wavelength distrib...

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        1. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 26 Apr 2013
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          @Meaningness @simplic10 @semiotechnic 'The sky is a weasel' is simple to quantify. 'The sky is indigo' is not: sometimes, some parts of ...

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        1. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 26 Apr 2013
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          @Meaningness @simplic10 @semiotechnic ...what is perceived as the sky by some people, are indigo; addressing the assertion forces one to...

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        1. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 26 Apr 2013
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          @Meaningness @simplic10 @semiotechnic ...come to grips with 'the sky' being inadequately defined and vague: there actually is no sky, but...

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