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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. jeremy‏ @lifeneoned May 6
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      I want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I suspect that you - like many other rationalists - don't have enough engagement with philosophy to unequivocally call it all bunk - often this is unknowingly engaging w/ philosophy. Meaningness is great but it IS philosophy.

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    2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness May 6
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      Replying to @lifeneoned @sonyasupposedly and

      “Philosophy” is not a well defined term, ofc, so whether or not something counts depends on context and purposes. Calling my stuff not-philosophy, even though it overlaps in topics, serves specific well-thought-out purposes (imo)

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    3. Jake Orthwein‏ @JakeOrthwein May 6
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      I sort of think of Meaningness as being meta to philosophy in the same way that meditation is meta to the contents of thought. Saying it's not philosophy is like saying meditation is not thinking. The object-level philosophy is invoked to explain meta-level pattern and nebulosity

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    4. Rival Voices ❁‏ @nosilverv May 6
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      Replying to @JakeOrthwein @Meaningness and

      Gonna side with my boy Jeremy here, for any folk understanding of philosophy (the study of general and fundamental questions about existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language - straight from wikipedia), meaningness (discourse on meaning) def. seems to fall under it

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    5. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness May 6
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      Replying to @nosilverv @JakeOrthwein and

      This is the fallacy of “field X claims to be the authoritative discourse on topic Y, therefore it is where you go to learn about Y.”

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    6. jeremy‏ @lifeneoned May 6
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      Replying to @Meaningness @nosilverv and

      False dichotomy - it's not 'either phil is the only authoritative discourse' or 'phil is totally bunk and useless.' Philosophy makes significant contributions to meaningness, many of which you don't address in the book. The phil method would also help.

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    7. jeremy‏ @lifeneoned May 6
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      method would help bc you often make claims that aren't very well defended or defined. E.g. 'always obvious' that meaningness is 'nebulous' and 'patterned.'could be reading you uncharitably but I didn't see a good justification/clarification; even in chapters where you defend this

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    8. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness May 6
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      Replying to @lifeneoned @nosilverv and

      Yes! This is precisely the point! It is because I am not doing philosophy that I have no reason to do that. If I were doing philosophy, I would. If I were doing (analytic) philosophy and didn’t clarify and justify, I would be doing (analytic) philosophy badly!

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    9. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness May 6
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      Replying to @Meaningness @lifeneoned and

      My purposes are quite different from those of philosophy, so my methods are quite different, and the relevant evaluation criteria are quite different. Does this clarify how it is that I am not doing philosophy?

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    10. jeremy‏ @lifeneoned May 6
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      Replying to @Meaningness @nosilverv and

      Yes it does clarify, thank you. But I'm also a little more confused now. You make many ontological & epistemic claims in the book. If you don't clarify and justify these claims, how do you defend your assertions then? Or are you not making assertions?

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness May 6
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      Replying to @lifeneoned @nosilverv and

      Inasmuch as I make assertions they are incidental. The aim is to help the reader change their relationship with meaningness, and thereby shift to a more effective and enjoyable way of being (thinking, feeling, and acting).

      2:08 PM - 6 May 2020
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        2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness May 6
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          Replying to @Meaningness @lifeneoned and

          Some philosophy also has that intention, and inasmuch as such philosophy is cognitively foregrounded, I have no problem with including my stuff with it. That’s why I said the point of “bunk” was to shift attention.

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        3. jeremy‏ @lifeneoned May 6
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          Replying to @Meaningness @nosilverv and

          Ah. I think some clarification of your approach could be helpful then. I'm all for your project, think your work is valuable, but it's hard to parse in many ways b/c your method is idiosyncratic. Also, so far I haven't been able to distinguish your approach from existentialism.

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        2. Rival Voices ❁‏ @nosilverv May 6
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          Replying to @Meaningness @lifeneoned and

          you need to read existential feelings by matthew ratcliffe

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness May 6
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          Replying to @nosilverv @lifeneoned and

          Is that this? https://oxfordmedicine.com/view/10.1093/med/9780199206469.001.0001/med-9780199206469-chapter-002 …pic.twitter.com/E2yO3sUQOk

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        1. Jake Orthwein‏ @JakeOrthwein May 6
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          me bringing my (rationalist) philosophical brain to Meaningnesspic.twitter.com/uKCMk8jpy7

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