(I don’t know about CRs specifically but) this distinction between ontological nebulosity and epistemic uncertainty is the central thing rationalists (other brands at least) don’t understand (and often seem to actively resist understanding for emotional safety reasons)
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Replying to @Meaningness @JakeOrthwein and
in your terms, ontological nebulosity is distinct and prior to epistemic uncertainty; y/n?
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Replying to @Meaningness @JakeOrthwein and
another one if in the mood: in your terms, emptiness is distinct and prior to nebulosity; nebulosity has a bit more of conceptual flavor, but they are close; y/n?
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Replying to @meditationstuff @JakeOrthwein and
mm, not so much… I haven’t tried to clarify this because afaict “emptiness” is somewhat a “floating signifier” in Buddhism; different people use it to mean different things, none of which are clearly defined. “Nebulosity” is also not clearly defined, so… https://meaningness.com/terminology/emptiness-form-nebulosity-pattern …pic.twitter.com/vuimwgG9hM
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Replying to @Meaningness @JakeOrthwein and
I want to gently push back on the emptiness thing. I'll be just another voice in the cacophony, but it seems like you take a very scholarly approach to emptiness (which is excellent and critically valuable) but what about the direct experience part?
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Replying to @meditationstuff @Meaningness and
Agreed that there are exoteric and esoteric usages of the term, and dharma battles, and scholarly debates. But, I'll personally bite "emptiness is a phenomenological referential quality that confers immediate knowledge of something like 'that seeming territory is actually map'"
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Replying to @meditationstuff @Meaningness and
(I think your position is that (straw?) representationalism is totally broken. But, I'm poking a little bit from what I can easily reach for.)
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Replying to @meditationstuff @Meaningness and
It just seems like part of the the point of deploying the term emptiness is discovering and then wielding the direct experience part (along with situated historical/scholarly/meta-textual awareness, depending on venue). And I'm a little cranky about this, sorry.
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Replying to @meditationstuff @Meaningness and
Thank you for replying above, in any case. It's very helpful for being able to translate into and out of your terminology. Again sorry for any crankiness.
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It’s funny how feeling-tones don’t come across on twitter… I’m failing to detect any crankiness :)
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