I try not to be too curious about what people are writing, unless explicitly encouraged - it seems like hovering over their shoulder. But I must admit, David, you have me dying with curiosity at the moment. If you don't mind saying? (Quite understand if not!)
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I'm writing about "wonder"! Hovering over my shoulder is great; I'm working with the garage door open to encourage that :)https://twitter.com/Meaningness/status/1255181130275250176 …
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David Chapman @MeaningnessI am working on a page about “wonder,” suggesting that it occurs with close but agendaless attention combined with suspension of habitual meaning-imposition. This has been more difficult than expected, and I’ve been reading Maslow, Heidegger, &c. to clarify my understanding.Show this thread2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes -
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I’ve found the work fairly hard going, but my half-assed literature review is starting to pay off and pieces are falling into place. I may have some new insights to add to the existing literature on “awe” and related topics. A good review & theorization: https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/dacherkeltner/docs/keltner.haidt.awe.2003.pdf …
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Reflecting: critics often disparage this kind of theorization. They'll complain it's reductionist & reduces the felt experience I don't think they're entirely wrong to worry But everyone I know who has done awe-inspiring work (a) does this kind of analytic study; and...
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Hmm. Maybe not _exactly_ that kind of analytic study! But I've found that when I talk with, say, great artists who are self-avowedly very intuitive in how they work, they've still got thousands of striking opinions that suggest they have a very developed theory!
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"Oh, I write entirely intuitively". "Why did you put the noun there in that sentence?" "[Detailed, striking, specific explanation]" (TBC: this is a made up conversation. But I've had a few where this captures the essence pretty well!)
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I’m pretty hostile to the word “intuition”. It mostly functions to stop inquiry.
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I suspect that's often its purpose. And, sometimes, it's a noble purpose!
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I was jotting down notes this morning. I used the word “intuition” - but, I’m unsure of a better word? In terms of being a stopper - I suspect because it’s difficulty to talk about: To ourselves and especially to others.pic.twitter.com/oJ4YtaAsH3
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fwiw, I think it is best to express this negatively; something like “we often come to knowledge and understanding by means we do not understand.” It may be wordy, but it avoids reifying “the processes we don’t understand”
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I’m inclined to phrase it less absolutely and less negatively. Also, it’s less about “knowledge” E.g. “We come to possess an awareness and understanding which are extremely difficult to understand and articulate using words” The adverb here is appropriate.
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Well, yes, these are among the ways of understanding that we don’t much understand.
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