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David Chapman

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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Apr 28
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      I try not to be too curious about what people are writing, unless explicitly encouraged - it seems like hovering over their shoulder. But I must admit, David, you have me dying with curiosity at the moment. If you don't mind saying? (Quite understand if not!)

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    2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Apr 28
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      I'm writing about "wonder"! Hovering over my shoulder is great; I'm working with the garage door open to encourage that :)https://twitter.com/Meaningness/status/1255181130275250176 …

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      I am working on a page about “wonder,” suggesting that it occurs with close but agendaless attention combined with suspension of habitual meaning-imposition. This has been more difficult than expected, and I’ve been reading Maslow, Heidegger, &c. to clarify my understanding.
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    3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Apr 28
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      I’ve found the work fairly hard going, but my half-assed literature review is starting to pay off and pieces are falling into place. I may have some new insights to add to the existing literature on “awe” and related topics. A good review & theorization: https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/dacherkeltner/docs/keltner.haidt.awe.2003.pdf …

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    4. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Apr 28
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      Reflecting: critics often disparage this kind of theorization. They'll complain it's reductionist & reduces the felt experience I don't think they're entirely wrong to worry But everyone I know who has done awe-inspiring work (a) does this kind of analytic study; and...

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    5. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Apr 28
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      I would not have guessed (a)!

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    6. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Apr 28
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      Hmm. Maybe not _exactly_ that kind of analytic study! But I've found that when I talk with, say, great artists who are self-avowedly very intuitive in how they work, they've still got thousands of striking opinions that suggest they have a very developed theory!

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    7. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Apr 28
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      "Oh, I write entirely intuitively". "Why did you put the noun there in that sentence?" "[Detailed, striking, specific explanation]" (TBC: this is a made up conversation. But I've had a few where this captures the essence pretty well!)

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    8. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Apr 28
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      I’m pretty hostile to the word “intuition”. It mostly functions to stop inquiry.

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    9. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Apr 28
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      I suspect that's often its purpose. And, sometimes, it's a noble purpose!

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    10. ryan‏ @context_ing Apr 28
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      I was jotting down notes this morning. I used the word “intuition” - but, I’m unsure of a better word? In terms of being a stopper - I suspect because it’s difficulty to talk about: To ourselves and especially to others.pic.twitter.com/oJ4YtaAsH3

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Apr 28
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      fwiw, I think it is best to express this negatively; something like “we often come to knowledge and understanding by means we do not understand.” It may be wordy, but it avoids reifying “the processes we don’t understand”

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        2. ryan‏ @context_ing Apr 28
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          I’m inclined to phrase it less absolutely and less negatively. Also, it’s less about “knowledge” E.g. “We come to possess an awareness and understanding which are extremely difficult to understand and articulate using words” The adverb here is appropriate.

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Apr 28
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          I’ll buy that

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        2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Apr 28
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          Well, yes, these are among the ways of understanding that we don’t much understand.

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