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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Apr 28
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    Heidegger’s 1945 “Conversation on a Country Path” seems to prefigure Kuhn’s 1962 central point that scientific method cannot be understood other than as intertwined with the history of science. A minor point in a famously long and difficult text; unsurprising it was missed…pic.twitter.com/ajMFf7OJuL

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      2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Apr 28
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        The only other precursor to Kuhn I know of was Norwood Russell Hanson; many historians of the history of science say that Kuhn unfairly got credit for Hanson’s 1958 work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwood_Russell_Hanson …pic.twitter.com/IQaIXZZ7CZ

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      3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Apr 28
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        Heidegger here suggests that science (even theoretical physics) is applied technology, rather than vice versa. (Same 1945 text.) As far as I know, this insight didn’t come to light again until the late 1970s, in SST and the work of the Stanford School of philosophy of science.pic.twitter.com/TMj4vS7N11

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      4. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Apr 28
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        “Country Path” contains Heidegger’s first long discussion of the nature of technology, which became a major theme in his later thought. His Question Concerning Technology is cited as an analog to Silent Spring, founding European ecological consciousness. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Question_Concerning_Technology …

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      5. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Apr 28
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        As best as anyone can figure, “Country Path” is actually *about* Gelassanheit, which I’m going to translate as “agendalessness.” That’s why I was reading it, but I found it extremely hard going, decided I wasn’t going to learn much about Gelassenheit, and eventually gave up.pic.twitter.com/I26ThCseBa

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      6. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Apr 28
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        I am working on a page about “wonder,” suggesting that it occurs with close but agendaless attention combined with suspension of habitual meaning-imposition. This has been more difficult than expected, and I’ve been reading Maslow, Heidegger, &c. to clarify my understanding.

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      2.  🕷BenjaminP.Taylor 🇪🇺‏ @antlerboy Apr 28
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        Fascinating. I bet you could find something to that effect in Nietzsche! (And also Goethe). And Macintyre of course :-)

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      3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Apr 28
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        Likely, as those are both big influences on Heidegger, and are discussed in this text! Would be interesting to trace in more detail. He cites Goethe specifically on the non-distinction between subject and object, inside and outside:pic.twitter.com/zvia6Gfutm

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      2. Benjamin Anderson‏ @banjiewen Apr 29
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        Interesting! Does later Heidegger also lean antirealist? I did not get the impression he was from B&T, at least.

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      3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Apr 29
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        Mmm…. hard to say. His metaphysics is so different from anything else that axes like idealism/realism don’t clearly apply.

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      2. Dan Bennett‏ @__stillPoint Apr 28
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        I assumed it was generally accepted that Kuhn's ideas developed from Heidegger. E.g. In B&T's intro(?) I thought the discussion of relationship between philosophy and science was pretty obviously pre-Kuhnian. I'd have to dig out the passage tho and it could easily surprise me.

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      3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Apr 28
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        As far as I know, Kuhn was completely unaware of Heidegger. I'd be very interested to learn otherwise! There's certainly similarity of thought.

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