A must-listen if you have any interest in Vajrayana in the West. Ken McLeod with @OortCloudAtlashttps://deconstructingyourself.com/vajrayana-compassion-and-the-importance-of-the-teacher-with-ken-mcleod.html …
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Replying to @Meaningness @OortCloudAtlas
where does one go about finding vajrayana gurus in the west? is it impossible? everything i've read/heard seems to be a complaint that they aren't around anymore
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Replying to @The_Lagrangian @OortCloudAtlas
Well, the issue isn’t finding one—they’re a dime a dozen, every town has a Tibetan Center. It’s finding one with whom one can have a good enough fit that you can learn from them. (As Ken McLeod said.) That used to be difficult; for various reasons, it is now nearly impossible.
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(In case you haven’t seen…. this is from >5 years ago, and the situation has gotten steadily worse)https://vividness.live/2014/09/25/modern-buddhist-tantra-teachers/ …
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Looking through this list again… pretty discouraging. I’m no longer an Aro gTér student, although I’d still recommend it for some people. Hokai is still teaching. 3Doors seems to still be going; don’t know much about it. Reggie Ray blew up; Shambhala Training blew up; >
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relatedly, in the absence of finding a good teacher do you think it would make more sense to attempt to reconstruct practices from texts or to simply go elsewhere to find a more living tradition?
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Replying to @The_Lagrangian @OortCloudAtlas
I am confident that you can’t reconstruct the practices from texts. Unfortunate.
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Just as you can’t learn to drive by reading a book. (It’s not that the practices are secret; they aren’t. It’s that reading a description is useless.) https://meaningness.com/metablog/upgrade-your-cargo-cult …pic.twitter.com/65nkPTSnXX
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