A must-listen if you have any interest in Vajrayana in the West. Ken McLeod with @OortCloudAtlashttps://deconstructingyourself.com/vajrayana-compassion-and-the-importance-of-the-teacher-with-ken-mcleod.html …
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Replying to @Meaningness @OortCloudAtlas
where does one go about finding vajrayana gurus in the west? is it impossible? everything i've read/heard seems to be a complaint that they aren't around anymore
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Replying to @The_Lagrangian @OortCloudAtlas
Well, the issue isn’t finding one—they’re a dime a dozen, every town has a Tibetan Center. It’s finding one with whom one can have a good enough fit that you can learn from them. (As Ken McLeod said.) That used to be difficult; for various reasons, it is now nearly impossible.
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(In case you haven’t seen…. this is from >5 years ago, and the situation has gotten steadily worse)https://vividness.live/2014/09/25/modern-buddhist-tantra-teachers/ …
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Looking through this list again… pretty discouraging. I’m no longer an Aro gTér student, although I’d still recommend it for some people. Hokai is still teaching. 3Doors seems to still be going; don’t know much about it. Reggie Ray blew up; Shambhala Training blew up; >
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Multiple reasons… Something Ken said in that podcast was that there may come a point at which you, personally, can’t learn more from a particular teacher (which is not their limitation, nor necessarily yours). I was pretty close to that when everyone in my family started >
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dying, and during years of spending most of my time taking care of the practical consequences of dying I didn’t have time to devote to the sangha, and in a brief break between dyingnesses I decided writing Meaningness was a more important use of what little time I had
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