Semde and longde were almost entirely displaced by menngakde (for interesting historical reasons partly explained in David Germano’s Funerary Transformation paper). They persisted only in a handful of minor lineages.
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I know Trungpa was teaching Dzogchen early, late 60s in UK, but not so much openly, and not to groups (AFAIK) Then he moved to USA and took on a more gradual approach, particularly after ‘72ish IIRC. So Tarthang Tulku was teaching openly to groups? Cool
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I don’t know as much about Tarthang Tulku’s history as I would like (because it has been suppressed, afaict). I gather he was teaching Dzogchen openly in Berkeley in the mid-70s. Then he made it an esoteric-only teaching (early 80s?), and by about 1990 he effectively disappeared.
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After a decade, the Tibetan hierarchs realized that openly teaching tantra to Westerners was even worse (for their agendas) than teaching Dzogchen, so their suppressive efforts shifted.
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I’ve had too much coffee.
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