Half an hour of hardcore meta-rational discussion by the @blackgoatpod team, starting at 36:00 (context starting 32:00).
If you want to know what meta-rationality sounds like, this is best example I’ve found so far. (Explanatory
follows…)http://www.theblackgoatpodcast.com/posts/auxiliary-turtles-all-the-way-down/ …
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Three leaders of the movement to restore credibility to experimental psychology, working out in candid real-time discussion how to think about the results of a large replication study. Issues here are not “is this true?” (uncertainty) but “what does this MEAN?” (nebulosity).
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Science eventually needs to establish what is true (epistemology)—and that is what they ultimately aim for. But the field’s methodological crisis requires stepping back and investigating prior, ontological questions (what framework can we use to think about this?).
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Discussion shows clearly the distinction between philosophy of science (abstract, theoretical) and meta-rationality (concrete, pragmatic).
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Meta-rationality is not systematic rationality applied to itself: The discussion has no set framework, no taken-for-granted axioms or agreed-on methods. Everything is open to question and potentially up for grabs. These are top people in their field trying to make sense of it.
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Meta-rationality is also not “mere reasonableness”: this discussion is highly technical, its subject matter is experimental methodology, and it takes understanding of rational principles and methods for granted.
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Replying to @Meaningness @blackgoatpod
Can you say that experts learn meta-rationality by repurposing their "mere reasonableness" skills in light of their rational expertise and their tacit skills? That meta-rationality = knowing when/how/why it is reasonable to apply certain rational systems?
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"application," here includes remixing, and creating new systems inspired by ontological defects in the previous ones.
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I think that’s probably right, but there’s been nearly zero rigorous empirical work on this, so we don’t know. I’m fairly skeptical of “dual process theories” that say rationality depends on distinctive brain mechanisms; see linked page https://meaningness.com/eggplant/cognitive-science#dual-process …pic.twitter.com/rokxySTx2e
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