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David Chapman
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David Chapman

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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Mar 10
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      S. T. Suzuki Roshi, maybe? The process of getting to stage 5 is generally awful, and once there it’s a letdown if you were expecting it would solve problems it doesn’t. So, yes…

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    2. AtaraxJim‏ @AtaraxJim Mar 10
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      Replying to @Meaningness @St_Rev @dthorson

      Why is it awful?

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    3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Mar 10
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      Replying to @AtaraxJim @St_Rev @dthorson

      Each of the stage transitions requires you to abandon a comfortable, functional way if being that you called “myself” and to accept that you will be confused and lost and dysfunctional and fucking up often for several years as you learn the difficult new way of being.

      4 replies 0 retweets 21 likes
    4. '*•:Ḟreyjạ:•*'‏ @utotranslucence Mar 10
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      Replying to @Meaningness @AtaraxJim and

      So..1 story coming out of this synthesis here is that those of us who have given up on rationality being The Way at age 28 have ~12 years ahead of us stuck in the wilderness before we can be...whatever the fuck 5 is :P (Or we're v, v wrong about our relationship to rationality)

      1 reply 1 retweet 8 likes
    5. '*•:Ḟreyjạ:•*'‏ @utotranslucence Mar 10
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      Replying to @utotranslucence @Meaningness and

      I mean, and/or the Kegan stages are a partial model anyways, and we can play at being at different levels...

      1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
    6. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Mar 10
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      Replying to @utotranslucence @AtaraxJim and

      Yes, fwiw I think they can be brilliantly illuminating in some cases, but don’t seem to fit some people’s experience at all, and in any case shouldn’t be concretized.https://youtu.be/m3dZl3yfGpc 

      2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
    7. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev Mar 10
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      Replying to @Meaningness @utotranslucence and

      Open up the Big Book of Enlightenment and most of it is instructables for Stupid Brain Tricks.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev Mar 10
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      St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻 Retweeted AtaraxJim

      The 'value' of a lot of the stupid brain tricks may be little more than that they force one into re-integration mode because it's that or go insane. So, as already noted:https://twitter.com/AtaraxJim/status/1237489888980684800 …

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      Replying to @St_Rev @Meaningness @dthorson
      Reminds me of another one: "Better not to begin. Having begun: better to finish." Can't remember source though. Maybe Trungpa?
      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    9. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev Mar 10
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      Replying to @St_Rev @Meaningness and

      So if there's any universality to the experience, it's neither the trigger, nor the nature of the rebuilt self. The commonality is the experience of destruction and reconstruction. Different traditions try to rebuild different "Enlightenments". And roll-your-own is... dicey.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    10. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev Mar 10
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      If you spend any time around New Age types (I used to work in a New Age bookstore) you see a lot of examples of what I've always thought of privately as "Catastrophic Partial Illumination". People who definitely saw *something*, and failed to reintegrate it sanely.

      2 replies 1 retweet 14 likes
      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Mar 10
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      Replying to @St_Rev @utotranslucence and

      Yes this is common. A lot of them now teach meditation and fuck other people up.

      3:12 PM - 10 Mar 2020
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