Robert Kegan explaining his adult developmental theory, with @dthorson
“If you want to be Stage 5 because all the cool kids are, that’s a Stage 3 aspiration. If you want it because Stage 5 is the Correct way of thinking, that’s a Stage 4 aspiration.”https://anchor.fm/emerge/episodes/Robert-Kegan---The-Five-Stages-of-Adult-Development-And-Why-You-Probably-Arent-Stage-5-eb8gug …
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Alternatively, it’s plausible that Kegan &co’s instrument measures something different than other developmental theorists’. They emphasize emotional and relational complexity, where others emphasize reasoning complexity, although both include both and see them as linked.
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It’s a common observation that STEM geeks develop cognitive skills fast and lag in emotional & relational skills. Developing in different domains at different rates is called “décallage” (lag) in the literature. Kegan seems less willing to acknowledge décallage than some others.
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Maybe you really can’t be emotionally and relationally meta-systematic before age 40, although you can develop meta-rationality over a few years starting mid/late 20s. (Research suggests developing cognitive meta-systematicity (= meta-rationality) takes 6-10 years to complete.)
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Understanding how adults continue to develop new, deeper, more powerful cognitive skills, through their 30s at minimum, seems enormously important. Research on this is scarce, and—to be blunt—much of it is low-quality. I’d love for this to change. Big opportunity!
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im gonna say "it was probably true before the internet." hard to imagine networked cognition hasn't changed the numbers a bit.
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I really enjoyed https://medium.com/@byrnehobart/the-socially-awkward-social-network-paradox-efc3e3716843 … by
@ByrneHobart as a narrative frame for why we may see this strangeness among rationalist STEM types. Seems to match up well with my own experience of social developmental delay, (tho I have no idea what 'stage' I'm in... and don't care) -
Would be fun to find out if Kegan's models are off for the same reason why most of social science is off: too much bias among subgroups in the research. So the "WEIRD" effect? https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/07/western-mind-too-weird-study … Suggests it may also be a large part cultural?
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