nice set of namechecks. Stafford Beer was also a very early yogi, having picked it up along with a lot of other orientalism in India - must ask his surviving partner if she knows if he was into buddhism too!
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Replying to @antlerboy @Meaningness
I had no idea! Interesting thread, thank you.
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Replying to @_awbery_ @Meaningness
Later I know for sure he like the enneagram (which I s'pose is a link to adult development via gurdjieff a la Torbert) and umm Molecules of Emotion.
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Whoa what is there a gurdjieff/torbert connection??
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Replying to @Meaningness @_awbery_
whole last chapter of Action Inquiry (again, IIRC) that, and the whole - ahem - 'guru' behaviour ;-)
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and umm it's on his CV http://www.williamrtorbert.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/WRT-CV-v2.pdf … The Gurdjieff Work, 1964-1989 plus: Innumerable Tavistock Group Relations, Esalen, Shambhala, Integral, SoL, OBTC, Bath U. Emergent Approaches to Inquiry. Intense 3-Day to Week-Long 2-loop & 3-loop Learning Experiences... yada yada
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I hate having to be the boring sensible reality-based person in the field :( (Thanks, I had no idea!)
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Replying to @Meaningness @_awbery_
do we know if/what Kegan's 'esoteric influences' are?
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Replying to @antlerboy @_awbery_
Mmm would have to go through his books and third-party sources to find things. One thing is I’ve always sort of thought of him as a secular rabbi; the influence of Judaism is not overt but seems significant at the level of attitude rather than content
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Replying to @Meaningness @_awbery_
I guess that's hardly esoteric - if you took the Judaism out of the Human Potential Movement etc, I don't know what you'd have left (well, Buddhism - but without the Jewish Buddhists...)
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Yes… you know about The Jew In The Lotus? I read it ~30 years ago but I remember it being excellent
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Replying to @antlerboy @Meaningness
Haven’t read it but is a familiar title (probably from you mentioning it previously!) I will take a look.
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