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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 29
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      Philosophy is bunk. Pretty much. https://meaningness.com/eggplant/rationalism#philosophy …pic.twitter.com/KVv66XBtOb

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    2. Matt Guttman‏ @RealtimeAI Jan 29
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      If I just say that my philosophical treatise isn’t philosophy, it won’t be. Pretty much.

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    3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 29
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      I hope that when you read it, you will agree that it’s not philosophical!

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    4. Matt Guttman‏ @RealtimeAI Jan 29
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      I have read much and already found much that I consider philosophy. Maybe we just use that word differently. But I don’t know what else you could call a (rational / reasoned / argument-based / logical ?) discussion about different ways of approaching thinking itself.

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    5. Matt Guttman‏ @RealtimeAI Jan 29
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      I do find you mostly to be attacking straw men. But, Deutsch helped me jettison a lot of this semantics stuff. We’re trying to make sense with each other. If someone calling themselves a “rationalist” wants to defend a logical contradiction, they’re just being *irrational*.

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    6. Jake Orthwein‏ @JakeOrthwein Jan 29
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      In Deutschian terms, Chapman is largely criticizing foundationalist/justificationist accounts of rationality. Doesn't generally help to read him as a critique of CR. I think if there's a critique of CR there, it's that it doesn't attend to how people actually reason in practice

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    7. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 29
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      Oh, that’s a nice way of explaining it, which clarifies the matter for me! However, see this thread where I complain that CR isn’t specific enough to be helpful:https://twitter.com/Meaningness/status/1222610654139256832 …

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      Here’s a more detailed version of that critique of critical rationalism, suggesting we need a better theory :) pic.twitter.com/HCChsmUOqS
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    8. Jake Orthwein‏ @JakeOrthwein Jan 29
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      This is very helpful! Is it from a forthcoming Eggplant chapter? This bit from Kegan does seem very Popperian, but I guess CR would have to explain how the conjecture and criticism processes are getting micro-implemented in everyday practical action.pic.twitter.com/v4Xvu8NqoY

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      Not sure I understand? I take CR as boiling down to “the important thing is solving problems, which you do by finding a better way of dealing with them”; but that’s not really very helpful. And also, it isn’t even true:pic.twitter.com/rCdKvOMfgP

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        2. Jake Orthwein‏ @JakeOrthwein Jan 29
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          The analogy to Kegan I was driving at is that there are "problems" that seem to point more directly to the need for ontological restructuring. Unless an alternative is available, we tend to hold on to the prior paradigm -- and should, provided we don't deny there's a problem.

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 29
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          That makes sense… how does it relate to CR?

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          Right those “problems” are like the “problem” of how much steel such and such a bridge needs. It assumes we already have the relevant knowledge. You can just apply it mechanically.

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 29
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          OK, let’s say I am a biologist who is working on the tau protein in Alzheimer’s. Concretely, how does CR help me do my job? What do I do differently if I accept CR vs if I don’t?

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        1. Jake Orthwein‏ @JakeOrthwein Jan 29
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          May be helpful to disambiguate the Deutschian CR terms: Problem: Conflict between "theories" (including things like emotions, perceptions, and procedural knowledge). CR: Evolutionary process by which we solve problems. Variation (conjecture) and selection (criticism/refutation).

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