@Meaningness Have you written anything about your perspective on Chogyam Trungpa? Would love to read it if yes!
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Replying to @benedictfritz
I’ve recommended his books, somewhere. Not written anything other than that afaicr
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Replying to @Meaningness
No worries :) I was curious because you've mentioned your background with Shambhala, and it seems like the Aro gTer considers him a guy they're generally cool with, but from my outsiders perspective he mostly seems confusing
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Replying to @benedictfritz
Well… there’s two general questions you might be asking, which are how to make sense of what he taught, and “was he a good guy or a bad guy”? The latter question is not useful, I think. Like any major public figure, he did some good things and some bad things.
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Replying to @Meaningness @benedictfritz
I gather from my twitter timeline that MLK did some bad things and some people think it’s important that on this day we know about them… I don’t know what they are and don’t care.
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Replying to @Meaningness @benedictfritz
A question that may be worth asking is how and whether the content of what he taught connected with bad things. One has to wrestle with this in the case of Heidegger, for instance, who was a Nazi official (and also the most important 20th century philosopher imo).
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Replying to @Meaningness @benedictfritz
Setting THAT question aside… I may be able to answer questions about the content of what Trungpa taught!
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Hmm yeah definitely not looking for a good/bad guy take. I've been stewing on what exactly my question is and I'm realizing it may have been: if you have wrestled with the content of his teachings vs. his life have you done any of that in public?
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Replying to @benedictfritz @Meaningness
Which I'm a little embarrassed to ask because I know so little about him that it might be insulting to ask if wrestling is even necessary! But asking obliquely probably doesn't help either
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Replying to @benedictfritz
Right, sure. I haven't done that publicly. There's a lot of complex narrative that one would have to go through to do that. In the end, I don't think it matters, because he's thoroughly dead. His lineage is de facto dead too, although the corpse is still lurching about a bit.
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What's left is the texts. All the content in them is totally mainstream. What's distinctive is primarily his choice of what aspects of the mainstream to emphasize and what to pass over. I think he did an excellent job of that.
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Replying to @Meaningness @benedictfritz
So the larger question is whether mainstream Vajrayana leads to bad behavior, and if so how and why and whether that can be prevented or made less likely. The system itself says “yes”. I discussed that in several places in this:https://letter.wiki/conversation/209 …
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Replying to @Meaningness @benedictfritz
I.e. the tradition itself says “this can lead to bad behavior” and it also says “there are ways of making that less likely, but no guarantees.”
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