“And the only way to reboot history is to figure out new beings to be. Because that’s ultimately what beefing is about: a way to avoid being, without allowing time itself to end.”
@vgr on forgetting the internet culture war by remembering purpose:https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2020/01/16/the-internet-of-beefs/ …
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Interesting (albeit horrifying) reading the comments on this. They boil down to “but MY side of the culture war is CORRECT, so telling people to stop is EVIL.” I get this quite a lot too.
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Venkat notes “the culture war” is not actually about culture, or politics, or indeed anything other than itself. Internet conflict is non-referential addictive behavior.
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Interesting comparing
@vgr’s analysis with@peternlimberg’s Culture War 2.0. Peter sees the bipolar War 1.0 replaced by multipolar conflict among many ideologies; Venkat sees a meaningless brawl in which no one has genuine commitments. (Hope I’m not mischaracterizing either here)4 replies 1 retweet 12 likesShow this thread -
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Might be a function of our respective ages/cynicism about sincerely held ideologies (I think sincerity = cluelessness 90% of time). I wouldn't say my model is atomized, though it's clearly not subcultural. Mine might be something closer to
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While the leading, most effective knights are almost all insincere grifters, I specifically do not suggest that nobody has genuine commitments. My point is that those with genuine commitments and no grift are largely clueless about what's going on. Most mooks, some knights.
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I managed to misrepresent both of you—sorry! Hope the discussion is interesting anyway
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