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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 17
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      “And the only way to reboot history is to figure out new beings to be. Because that’s ultimately what beefing is about: a way to avoid being, without allowing time itself to end.” @vgr on forgetting the internet culture war by remembering purpose:https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2020/01/16/the-internet-of-beefs/ …

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    2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 17
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      Interesting (albeit horrifying) reading the comments on this. They boil down to “but MY side of the culture war is CORRECT, so telling people to stop is EVIL.” I get this quite a lot too.

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    3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 17
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      Venkat notes “the culture war” is not actually about culture, or politics, or indeed anything other than itself. Internet conflict is non-referential addictive behavior.

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 17
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      Interesting comparing @vgr’s analysis with @peternlimberg’s Culture War 2.0. Peter sees the bipolar War 1.0 replaced by multipolar conflict among many ideologies; Venkat sees a meaningless brawl in which no one has genuine commitments. (Hope I’m not mischaracterizing either here)

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        1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 17
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          Peter’s analysis seems “subcultural” and Venkat’s “atomized.” Subcultural conflict is interesting & potentially productive, thus arguably more important; but quantitatively it’s dwarfed by atomized conflict. Rebooting meaningfulness: probably required.https://meaningness.com/meaningness-history …

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        2. Venkatesh brrrRao‏ @vgr Jan 17
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          Might be a function of our respective ages/cynicism about sincerely held ideologies (I think sincerity = cluelessness 90% of time). I wouldn't say my model is atomized, though it's clearly not subcultural. Mine might be something closer to @johnrobb open-source insurrection idea

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        3. Venkatesh brrrRao‏ @vgr Jan 17
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          While the leading, most effective knights are almost all insincere grifters, I specifically do not suggest that nobody has genuine commitments. My point is that those with genuine commitments and no grift are largely clueless about what's going on. Most mooks, some knights.

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        2. Peter N Limberg‏ @peternlimberg Jan 17
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          Yes. That was the frame of CW2.0 but I also wrote about the "outrage porno" which is similar to Venkats: "You have now not only become a viewer of outrage porn, but have contributed to the production of the pervasive outrage porno which surrounds us."https://areomagazine.com/2019/07/09/hippocratic-oath-for-the-culture-war/ …

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        3. Peter N Limberg‏ @peternlimberg Jan 17
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          Replying to @peternlimberg @Meaningness @vgr

          "Unfortunately for us viewers, we are all potential performers in the outrage porno, nervously waiting on the casting couch. We are increasingly aware of the fact that the slightest misstep can put us on the receiving end. All it takes is an iPhone, a narrative and a mistake."

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        2. Henry Porter‏ @HenryPorters Jan 17
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          Replying to @Meaningness @vgr @peternlimberg

          This is silly. How many times do we have to do this before we realize humans being social—even beefing—is always interesting to humans?pic.twitter.com/nKKG5ganxS

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 17
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          Replying to @HenryPorters @vgr @peternlimberg

          Always interesting, yes, but not always enjoyable or productive. We can make choices, as individuals and as societies, about how to compete for status. Good choices produce the best humans are capable of; bad choices produce the worst. https://vividness.live/2015/10/05/buddhist-ethics-is-advertising/ …pic.twitter.com/Ozvq8sxmve

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