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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 17
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      “And the only way to reboot history is to figure out new beings to be. Because that’s ultimately what beefing is about: a way to avoid being, without allowing time itself to end.” @vgr on forgetting the internet culture war by remembering purpose:https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2020/01/16/the-internet-of-beefs/ …

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    2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 17
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      Interesting (albeit horrifying) reading the comments on this. They boil down to “but MY side of the culture war is CORRECT, so telling people to stop is EVIL.” I get this quite a lot too.

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 17
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      Venkat notes “the culture war” is not actually about culture, or politics, or indeed anything other than itself. Internet conflict is non-referential addictive behavior.

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        2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 17
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          Interesting comparing @vgr’s analysis with @peternlimberg’s Culture War 2.0. Peter sees the bipolar War 1.0 replaced by multipolar conflict among many ideologies; Venkat sees a meaningless brawl in which no one has genuine commitments. (Hope I’m not mischaracterizing either here)

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 17
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          Peter’s analysis seems “subcultural” and Venkat’s “atomized.” Subcultural conflict is interesting & potentially productive, thus arguably more important; but quantitatively it’s dwarfed by atomized conflict. Rebooting meaningfulness: probably required.https://meaningness.com/meaningness-history …

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        2. Steven Wittens‏ @unconed Jan 18
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          Replying to @Meaningness @vgr

          This seems to ignore that there are real casualties of culture war. Not everyone engages without skin in the game.

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 18
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          Replying to @unconed @vgr

          David Chapman Retweeted Venkatesh brrrRao

          Yes, @vgr and I agree (contra some respondents) that the culture war is significantly harmful, which is why we’re concerned about it:https://twitter.com/vgr/status/1218272439043387392 …

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          Venkatesh brrrRao @vgr
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          Well it’s destroyed careers and mental health for a lot of people so bloodless != harmless
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        2. xsplat‏ @xsplat Jan 17
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          I'm not sure how non-referential it is. I think beefs can be proxies for political sides, which have real world political agendas. Climate change can be a proxy for a call to wealth redistribution, for example. The conspiracies are subconscious, because human condition.

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 17
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          Yes, what I said was characteristically exaggerated. But, there’s a bunch of research that shows most people evaluate policy proposals entirely on the basis of “Is this the Good Tribe’s position or the Bad Tribe’s?”

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        1. Miss Distance (Kia‏☆)‏ @alt_kia Jan 18
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          displacement activity

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        1. Jscott‏ @DailySuicide Jan 18
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          I didn't catch the non-referential angle. Jiminy Crickets, Morty, that is an addictive loop that is near unbreakable. If we have no 'real world' ToDo to Live tasks that will crash us out of the loop, how do we trigger meaning making?

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