“And the only way to reboot history is to figure out new beings to be. Because that’s ultimately what beefing is about: a way to avoid being, without allowing time itself to end.”
@vgr on forgetting the internet culture war by remembering purpose:https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2020/01/16/the-internet-of-beefs/ …
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Venkat notes “the culture war” is not actually about culture, or politics, or indeed anything other than itself. Internet conflict is non-referential addictive behavior.
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@vgr’s analysis with@peternlimberg’s Culture War 2.0. Peter sees the bipolar War 1.0 replaced by multipolar conflict among many ideologies; Venkat sees a meaningless brawl in which no one has genuine commitments. (Hope I’m not mischaracterizing either here)Show this thread -
Peter’s analysis seems “subcultural” and Venkat’s “atomized.” Subcultural conflict is interesting & potentially productive, thus arguably more important; but quantitatively it’s dwarfed by atomized conflict. Rebooting meaningfulness: probably required.https://meaningness.com/meaningness-history …
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@mwotton were just talking about it. if the goal is to fix the beef, then a lot of the meta-conversations we're having do more harm than good. we need a framework that helps *resolve* the beef, not dismisses beef-havers as illogical culture warriorshttps://twitter.com/tangled_zans/status/1220722481755041792 … -
I agree, definitely! I made suggestions about how to resolve the culture war (v1.0) here:https://meaningness.com/completing-countercultures …
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Same. The culture war is going after meta now.
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