Interesting (albeit horrifying) reading the comments on this. They boil down to “but MY side of the culture war is CORRECT, so telling people to stop is EVIL.” I get this quite a lot too.
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Venkat notes “the culture war” is not actually about culture, or politics, or indeed anything other than itself. Internet conflict is non-referential addictive behavior.
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@vgr’s analysis with@peternlimberg’s Culture War 2.0. Peter sees the bipolar War 1.0 replaced by multipolar conflict among many ideologies; Venkat sees a meaningless brawl in which no one has genuine commitments. (Hope I’m not mischaracterizing either here)Show this thread -
Peter’s analysis seems “subcultural” and Venkat’s “atomized.” Subcultural conflict is interesting & potentially productive, thus arguably more important; but quantitatively it’s dwarfed by atomized conflict. Rebooting meaningfulness: probably required.https://meaningness.com/meaningness-history …
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I'm not sure this is bad though? Are we sure that "beefing" isn't just the sign of people having more leisure and using it in the way people like best, by squabbling, relatively bloodlessly?
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This is a really interesting take; thank you! I will ruminate upon it. My first thought is: political instincts evolved for life in Dunbar-sized bands can be massively maladaptive when scaled up. (Any thoughts about that?)
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@vgr I don't think there is a way to stop the "internet of beefs". It's human nature + internet connectivity. There might be ways to increase incentives for spreading true information, which would be an improvement.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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Thanks so much - what a great read
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