Hey @Meaningness, @edelwax told me that you think the Dzogchen idea of 'methods' is equivalent to Joe's idea of values.
Have you written about method before? Where can I learn more about it?
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Hmm, I don’t understand Joe’s idea of values, so I don’t know whether “method” would be equivalent, but I’d guess not. Maybe some slight miscommunication there somewhere? “Method” in Dzogchen has pretty much the everyday meaning.
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This apparent paradox seems somehow deeply appropriate to me, given what I know of Dzogchen!
And also somehow connected with @Meaningness' interest in ethnomethodology. pic.twitter.com/1bz6fnsldA2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes -
I think what I was trying to say in the first one is that Joe categorizes something like “accepting uncertainty” as a value, whereas for Dzogchen it’s a method. It might be odd to regard that as a method, therefore “technical,” but the sense of “method” is itself standard.
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The words don’t matter, of course. Instead, it’s significant what things you categorize together, or separately.
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Dzogchen treats more things as “methods” than would be common elsewhere; particularly, it treats worldviews and principles as relative methods to apply, rather than ultimate truths. Joe categorizes more things as “values” than is probably standard.
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If this distinction makes a difference, it is that Dzogchen does not take any method as ultimate or universal or anything other than a tool. Whereas values are presumably sometimes ultimate, universal, or much more than a tool.
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