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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 4
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      I know zero about Girard. This seems like a plausible and comprehensive dismissal. Would be interested to know what counterarguments there are?https://arcade.stanford.edu/rofl/deceit-desire-and-literature-professor-why-girardians-exist …

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    2. anagogicascent‏ @anagogicascent Jan 4
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      @MimeticValue

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    3. Mimetic Contagion‏ @MimeticValue Jan 4
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    4. Mimetic Contagion‏ @MimeticValue Jan 4
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      It's not worth my time to do a full rebuttal. He's doing bait and switch. "Of course some desire is mimetic. And of course some mimetic desire leads to rivalry, and of course some rivalry leads to violence." He says Girard is partially correct, but doesn't get why.

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    5. Mimetic Contagion‏ @MimeticValue Jan 4
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      >All you need is a desire—not mimetic desire, any desire—plus scarcity of resources Scarcity doesn't exist in a vacuum. It implies multiple agents desire the same object. Buddhists say "desire is suffering." If you desire something nobody else desires, is there suffering?

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    6. Mimetic Contagion‏ @MimeticValue Jan 4
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      >where is the model for someone’s desire to eat paint? Nobody talks about it, so nobody knows about it, so there simply cannot be a model. This guy hasn't read about taboos and probably doesn't even understand Freud. Girard has the same explanation here as Freud, except

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    7. Mimetic Contagion‏ @MimeticValue Jan 4
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      Girard says that the root of the issue isn't necessarily the parents and sexual repression, but could be a response to some other model than the parents and the repression/taboo of some other impulse.

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    8. Mimetic Contagion‏ @MimeticValue Jan 4
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      Reading Girard in isolation just for the sake of being a hater is dorky. Girard is for filling in the holes in Nietzsche, Freud, Campbell, Buddhism, and Taleb.

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jan 4
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      Replying to @MimeticValue @anagogicascent @Pseudoplotinus

      Thank you very much! If I were going to read a single text by or about Girard, ideally ~50 pages, what would you recommend? (A full-length book recommendation would also be welcome, but somewhat less likely I’d follow up)

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        2. anagogicascent‏ @anagogicascent Jan 4
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          This is audio but I know this series has served as a great intro to his ideas for a great many...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8Y8dVVV4To …

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        1. MartyrMade‏ @martyrmade Jan 12
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          Resurrection From the Underground, his treatment of Dostoevsky, is a profound study of narcissism, gets at Girard’s theory without a lot of the early myth hocus pocus (which can be dismissed w/o damaging his general insight IMO), and is only about 100 pages.

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        1. Dormant K‏ @MordantK Jan 5
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          The "Girard Reader" edited by James G. Williams also includes an interview with Girard which can serve as an introduction, if you prefer text. Pgs. 209-232: http://www.ieas.unideb.hu/admin/file_9243.pdf …

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