This is no different from claiming most people do not engage in public discourse in good faith. It is evidently the case. However, in order for any one of us to engage productively we must assume that those with whom we engage are doing so in good faith.
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I think that if we understand that most interlocutors do not understand that the things they imagine are beliefs are not that, we can more skillfully meet them where they actually are, and help them come to a more sophisticated understanding themselves.
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Anyone know of an earlier such observation? I wonder how far back this insight goes.
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Yeah, I’m wondering about this too. It would be unsurprising if one of the American Pragmatists (James?) had figured this out… and maybe Diogenes…
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Because it doesn't sound like the sort of thing you're supposed to say.
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Weirdly, that tweet got way more likes/rts than almost all of mine. Maybe now you are allowed to say it and there’s enough awareness that it’s sinking in and will start to make a difference
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this was arguably one of the foundational insights of the LW sequences ("beliefs as attire") and it *still* didn't stick there nobody wants this because it's a weapon that can be used to attack practically any belief (e.g. classic LW alone: bayes, cryonics, many-worlds)
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Ideas are tools. They stick when they are used regularly or importantly. Most people have no practicality at all, so ideas are only used socially. "Beliefs as attire" gets used, but isn't that useful. It's everywhere as a phenomenon, but that offers few to no new affordances.
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This doesn’t stick because people rarely post about their own beliefs as attire. Using it to tell others their beliefs are attire is usually simply weaponizing it to impose beliefs on others, and truly re-examining ones own is quite hard.
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Same reason elephant-in-the-brain status insight is constantly forgotten. People who want to sure the insight w actions/words being “really about status” generally explain others behavior this way, not their own.
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