This is critical for allowing writers to write deep thoughts using new concepts without having to re-explain themselves every time, but also not having to manually pull up a reference link for each use of a term...
& ofc some people don't even try
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And we haven't even gotten to some of the more epic features of roam, including the ability to embed-quote nodes or entire subtrees, and to see where a given piece is quoted. This allows for remixing old pieces or drafts, producing meta-commentary, & stuff I haven't even dreamed!
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Malcolm ☣️cean - check sense of smell 👃 — 🌎 🇨🇦 Retweeted Visakan Veerasamy
Previously the best thing for this was twitter & QTs (and it's still better along some dimensions) See
@visakanv's answer to@vgr's original questionhttps://twitter.com/visakanv/status/1200325448313405441 …Malcolm ☣️cean - check sense of smell 👃 — 🌎 🇨🇦 added,
Visakan Veerasamy @visakanvReplying to @vgrBasically my twitter thread webs, but editable, and without character limits. (Or 1000chars or something.) A bunch of long threads would get condensed into shorter ones https://twitter.com/visakanv/status/1071803092331520001?s=21 … https://twitter.com/visakanv/status/1071803092331520001 …1 reply 0 retweets 3 likesShow this thread -
There are challenges though. People find http://meaningness.com daunting to read because they don't know where to start. In order to ensure I read the whole thing, I chose to just go in ToC order anyway. I guess the main value is being able to publish a half-written book at all.
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So going back to
@vgr's original point,@RoamResearch is clearly not built around a core use case of blogging and has barely optimized for it at all... and yet it's already a powerful platform for this. What's possible with a few years of further development?1 reply 0 retweets 6 likesShow this thread -
Here's what I'd like to see for roam to make it better for graph-based-blogs:
1. Basic usability stuff: shareable page url with previews, custom header/theme/css, private drafts, commenting (block-level!)2 replies 0 retweets 9 likesShow this thread -
2. Better ways to organize posts to point people to new content & updated-old content. Currently landing page is Daily Notes, which is... sort of appropriate for a blog... but it ends up being mostly blank unless actively updated frequently.3 replies 0 retweets 4 likesShow this thread -
3. Subscribe-related features. One option I would like is to be able to easily export a page as HTML and pipe it straight into wordpress+RSS and into mailchimp, so that I can announce new posts to followers. Could also be more internal.1 reply 0 retweets 6 likesShow this thread -
4. What-I've-Read tracking. This is key for nonlinear reading. Visited-links turning purple is the Web 1.0 version of this, but it doesn't suffice when pages may also be updated. It needs to be both on a page level and on a node level.1 reply 0 retweets 7 likesShow this thread -
Malcolm ☣️cean - check sense of smell 👃 — 🌎 🇨🇦 Retweeted Malcolm ☣️cean - check sense of smell 👃 — 🌎 🇨🇦
5. Inter-roam linking/embedding. I've talked to @Conaw & this is en route but is tough & needs a new data model. 5b. Some extensible standard for doing deep backlinks & embed between completely different *sites*. Revive the blogosphere! Also science
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Malcolm ☣️cean - check sense of smell 👃 — 🌎 🇨🇦 @Malcolm_OceanReplying to @mrgunn @Conaw and 4 othersI'm talking not just a citation graph on the level of papers, but on the level of specific claims & quotations being deeplinked. I think that would be really powerful, and would allow for a whole new level of following an author's thinking. https://twitter.com/Conaw/status/1195150854581559298 …2 replies 0 retweets 7 likesShow this thread
I’ve looked at roam only briefly so far. What distinguishes it from a wiki?
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Replying to @Meaningness @vgr and
Malcolm ☣️cean - check sense of smell 👃 — 🌎 🇨🇦 Retweeted Roam Research
The back-links thing mentioned above is one answer, the hierarchical workflowy-like structure & ability to embed trees from one place into another is another.https://twitter.com/RoamResearch/status/1199422673102786560 …
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Roam Research @RoamResearchReplying to @vgrIt's wiki that is designed for threading, and for having collections of related ideas that you filter through back-links. The soft-prompt for daily notes is that you don't need to think about what page to put an idea in, you just nest it under links to all the related ideas2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean @Meaningness and
Malcolm ☣️cean - check sense of smell 👃 — 🌎 🇨🇦 Retweeted Conor is Hiring for Roam (DMs open) Designers esp.
and in terms of large-scale vision... (from my perspective this will also require major changes in *culture*, which is also what I'm working on)https://twitter.com/Conaw/status/1173474239069839360 …
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Conor is Hiring for Roam (DMs open) Designers esp. @ConawReplying to @gordonbrander @chenoehartWhen I imagine it, I see a dependency graph with people publicly saying how certain they are of both the truth of premises and the validity of arguments It's not like Wikipedia, where you get in edit wars, more like twitter with weights vs likes https://twitter.com/Conaw/status/1099182673140998144?s=20 …0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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