@meaningness Do you have any links that claim to rebut staged/systematic learning models like Dreyfus or shu-ha-ri in favor of Schön-like/metasystematic learning models? I may be talking myself into agreeing to give a "big think" talk.
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I didn’t know about shu-ha-ri (or had forgotten it) until you mentioned it. I wonder if D&D were influenced by it? (I can’t remember if they mention it.)
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I’ve never gone beyond beginner level in martial arts, but in other fields that I have pretty well mastered, it seems to me that one still operates in all these modes at times. There’s times to follow the form precisely, times to play with it, times to ignore it.
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Thanks. No need to apologize for slowness: I still operate on email timescales. It's interesting that your observation that "one still operates in all these modes at times" seems universally under-rug-swept by the level-definers.
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Maybe a thing to concentrate on is that "levelers" implicitly claim that "oh, that small bit of bouncing among levels is not important".But what if it's way more important than what level you're at? (See also your comment about D's distinction between conscious and unconscious.)
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