David Chapman na Twitteru: "Maybe the way forward is for alt-researchers to explain what is needed clearly enough that the sorts of people who do have the mindset and skillset will understand the importance of the job and step forward to fill the gap."

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David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 18. stu 2019.

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Some types of cognitive work, which may be critical for innovative breakthroughs, are apparently *impossible* except under highly specialized circumstances that are mostly no longer available. This *might* explain why we’re continuing to make progress in “normal science” only.

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David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 18. stu 2019.

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.@michael_nielsen and I discussed this yesterday in a tweet thread that unfortunately forked so it's a bit hard to point to, but here's one pointer into it:https://twitter.com/Meaningness/status/1196125642342858753 …

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Many of my projects require specific non-ordinary cognitive modes to proceed, and it usually takes me about three full-time days to get myself into the relevant state. Any significant interruption aborts the process.

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David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 18. stu 2019.

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David Chapman je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceVenkatesh Rao

Some outstanding researchers recognize the problem and go independent, hoping that it’s easier to do serious thinking outside an institutional context than within one. In this @vgr explains some of the reasons that mostly doesn’t work:https://twitter.com/vgr/status/1195789557465153536 …

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I was briefly calling myself an independent researcher: somebody who self-funds spec R&D on their own ideas. In theory it’s something like indie-research : academic research :: blogging/self-publishing : traditional publishing. But the idea doesn’t really work.

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David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 18. stu 2019.

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David Chapman je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceVenkatesh Rao

We urgently need alternative mechanisms/institutions for research support. This from @vgr crunches some numbers: what would that cost? Answer: surprisingly little, in the scale of things.https://twitter.com/vgr/status/1195937380210921472 …

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Thinking about my thread this morning on why independent research is hard, and what it would take to make it possible, and whether it’s within the reach of private investors who ALL complain endlessly about how they have far too much capital and don’t know where to put it. https://twitter.com/vgr/status/1195789557465153536 …

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David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 18. stu 2019.

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.@vgr’s also covers many of the issues that come up in discussions of alt-research funding and institutions. This is a common, live discussion among people I talk with often. There’s growing momentum and consensus in the conversation, but will it lead to action?

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David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 18. stu 2019.

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I suspect the central challenge here is to find alternative mechanisms for selecting what research/researchers to fund. How do grantors know their money is being well-spent? Who makes those decisions? Is there a way to do this that doesn’t just replicate the existing pathologies?

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Making alt-research institutions happen will probably require alt-researchers to collectively come up with a coherent story about how they can be managed, convincing enough to persuade grantors that it’s feasible and worthwhile.https://twitter.com/vgr/status/1196491007891652608 …

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Probably not anytime soon, and the fault is probably more on our side as wannabe beneficiaries of such a system as much as those with capital to deploy. There is a significant lack of imagination and energy on both sides of the capital supply/demand equation.

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David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 18. stu 2019.

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Plausibly, the key missing input is administrative capacity with: openness to fund peculiar, high-risk projects; enough sense to not fund exclusively crackpots; enough bureaucratic expertise to make things run smoothly; enough hatred of bureaucracy to mostly get out of the way

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David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 18. stu 2019.

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This is an extremely unusual collection of abilities; and perhaps anyone who could do the job would not want it. But such people are found more often in Silicon Valley than anywhere else, and maybe some successful founder would be willing to take it on for the leverage?

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David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 18. stu 2019.

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The mindset and skillset needed to manage alt-researchers is quite different from those most alt-researchers have themselves. Alt-researchers left academia because they want to be left alone to do research and hate bureaucracy. Creating institutions is the last thing they want

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David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 18. stu 2019.

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Maybe the way forward is for alt-researchers to explain what is needed clearly enough that the sorts of people who do have the mindset and skillset will understand the importance of the job and step forward to fill the gap.

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  very interesting thread, thanks. Do you think that @DeepMindAI or @OpenAI model of research fills that gap in their field? what about @NASA ?
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