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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @JaredJanes @LC_Ceriello and

      Sorry I'm out of the loop here; which article was this? I might be able to say something, I don't know... btw I STILL haven't had a chance to listen to your podcast with @ssica3003, but @_awbery_ spoke very highly of it, and I look forward to it!

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    2. Jared Janes‏ @JaredJanes 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @LC_Ceriello and

      Well we could do a compare on the article I mentioned (linked here) but my thought was that meta-rationality would likely fall under the metamodern label that @GregDember & @LC_Ceriello outline, so even your .02 on Vajra. correlations would be interesting.https://medium.com/what-is-metamodern/after-postmodernism-eleven-metamodern-methods-in-the-arts-767f7b646cae …

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    3. Greg Dember‏ @GregDember 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @JaredJanes @Meaningness and

      I don't know a lot about meta-rationality. I'm interested in how it may be a phenomenon of metamodernism. I realize it's probably hard to capture in a tweet, but could you give the nutshell of how you see the connection?

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    4. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @GregDember @JaredJanes and

      I take metamodernism to be the cultural aspect of meta-systematicity, and meta-rationality to be the cognitive aspect. This usage may not be standard, but we are inventing this stuff as we go along! https://meaningness.com/eggplant/terms pic.twitter.com/8SP9eFlXiG

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    5. Linda C. Ceriello‏ @LC_Ceriello 27 Oct 2019
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      I guess I would say, invent away! But can someone explain one thing: Why call these things "metamodern" when y'all already have perfectly good terms for the things you're describing--terms that are not already in use and doing work in critical/cultural theory capacities?

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    6. Linda C. Ceriello‏ @LC_Ceriello 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @LC_Ceriello @Meaningness and

      What I mean is, "Metamodernism" --as a parallel thing to pomo and modernism-- makes sense. What's the reason the term should be made to also stand for an integralism reboot (or systems theory, or theories of adult development...)

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    7. '*•:Ḟreyjạ:•*'‏ @utotranslucence 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @LC_Ceriello @Meaningness and

      Having been more familiar with the metarational/metasystematic terms than metamodern, I have to admit I don’t quite understand why people consider metamodernism to be the same thing, but I haven’t read Hanzi or any of the art critics using the term, only twitter peeps.

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    8. '*•:Ḟreyjạ:•*'‏ @utotranslucence 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @utotranslucence @LC_Ceriello and

      My understanding of what I think the systems-y people would -like- metamodernism to be is a way of approaching the world that acknowledges meaningfulness without deifying or trapping it, analogous to Kegan stage 5. I’m actually unsure metamodern artists -are- doing that...?

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    9. '*•:Ḟreyjạ:•*'‏ @utotranslucence 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @utotranslucence @LC_Ceriello and

      There does seem to be some kind of pattern to how all these people in these different fields are relating to structures of meaning, and it makes sense to see whether they could be grouped together, under if not the same name then similar ones?

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    10. Linda C. Ceriello‏ @LC_Ceriello 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @utotranslucence @Meaningness and

      To me the problem lies in the 'category' of thing we are each taking MM to be. If it is a wide container on parallel to pomo and mod (AKA an episteme), it can't ALSO be one person's/one group's desired social program. It's way larger than any 1 controlling idea could contain.

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @LC_Ceriello @utotranslucence and

      I am guessing this is in reference to Hanzi’s “Nordic Ideology”? I confess to having not read the book, but I did find it questionable to identify metamodernity with a specific political/social theory

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