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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. Jared Janes‏ @JaredJanes 26 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @cognazor @dfarrrr and

      I think this type of development goes back quite far, but was quite rare. I think Vajrayana Buddhism is built on refined metamodern philosophy & practice.

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    2. Linda C. Ceriello‏ @LC_Ceriello 26 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @JaredJanes @cognazor and

      Not sure if I get the drift— what aspects of mm do you connect w Vajrayana and what about the fact that mm emerges as a response to mod & Pomo— how are you saying Vajr could be “built on” mm?

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    3. Jared Janes‏ @JaredJanes 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @LC_Ceriello @cognazor and

      Well... this does make more sense from a developmental MM POV (ie. personal/cultural dev being similar), but cultural epistemes aside if I look at the MM methods listed in the article we covered in our ep I see many of the techniques in Vajrayana.

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    4. Jared Janes‏ @JaredJanes 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @JaredJanes @LC_Ceriello and

      If we're lucky maybe we could get @Meaningness &/or @_awbery_ to chime in on any connections they see with metamodern/meta-rational sensibilities found in Vajrayana practices & philosophy...

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    5. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @JaredJanes @LC_Ceriello and

      Sorry I'm out of the loop here; which article was this? I might be able to say something, I don't know... btw I STILL haven't had a chance to listen to your podcast with @ssica3003, but @_awbery_ spoke very highly of it, and I look forward to it!

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    6. Jared Janes‏ @JaredJanes 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @LC_Ceriello and

      Well we could do a compare on the article I mentioned (linked here) but my thought was that meta-rationality would likely fall under the metamodern label that @GregDember & @LC_Ceriello outline, so even your .02 on Vajra. correlations would be interesting.https://medium.com/what-is-metamodern/after-postmodernism-eleven-metamodern-methods-in-the-arts-767f7b646cae …

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    7. Greg Dember‏ @GregDember 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @JaredJanes @Meaningness and

      I don't know a lot about meta-rationality. I'm interested in how it may be a phenomenon of metamodernism. I realize it's probably hard to capture in a tweet, but could you give the nutshell of how you see the connection?

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    8. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @GregDember @JaredJanes and

      I take metamodernism to be the cultural aspect of meta-systematicity, and meta-rationality to be the cognitive aspect. This usage may not be standard, but we are inventing this stuff as we go along! https://meaningness.com/eggplant/terms pic.twitter.com/8SP9eFlXiG

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    9. Linda C. Ceriello‏ @LC_Ceriello 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @GregDember and

      I guess I would say, invent away! But can someone explain one thing: Why call these things "metamodern" when y'all already have perfectly good terms for the things you're describing--terms that are not already in use and doing work in critical/cultural theory capacities?

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    10. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @LC_Ceriello @GregDember and

      I sympathize—It’s worrying and frustrating when a term one invents gets appropriated and used for somewhat different things by some larger group that you don’t have sway over and who may not understand the original meaning.

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @LC_Ceriello and

      I worry about this for “meta-rationality,” which I was first to use more than in passing. Unfortunately my work on it was interrupted by circumstances starting 3 years ago, and I haven’t had the opportunity to explain clearly and in detail what I mean by it.

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        2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 27 Oct 2019
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          Replying to @Meaningness @LC_Ceriello and

          Since then it’s escaped into the wild, which is great because people find it useful, but I do worry that it may get distorted into meaning something other than I intended, and then using it in the original way will be difficult when I get back to working on it.

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 27 Oct 2019
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          Replying to @Meaningness @LC_Ceriello and

          I personally have used the term “metamodern” only in passing, and only to describe artistic production, exactly because I’m not sure my understanding lines up with other people’s.

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        1. Linda C. Ceriello‏ @LC_Ceriello 27 Oct 2019
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          Replying to @Meaningness @GregDember and

          Truly feeling your pain, David. Yowch.

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