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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. Jared Janes‏ @JaredJanes 27 Oct 2019
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      Well... this does make more sense from a developmental MM POV (ie. personal/cultural dev being similar), but cultural epistemes aside if I look at the MM methods listed in the article we covered in our ep I see many of the techniques in Vajrayana.

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    2. Jared Janes‏ @JaredJanes 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @JaredJanes @LC_Ceriello and

      If we're lucky maybe we could get @Meaningness &/or @_awbery_ to chime in on any connections they see with metamodern/meta-rational sensibilities found in Vajrayana practices & philosophy...

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    3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @JaredJanes @LC_Ceriello and

      Sorry I'm out of the loop here; which article was this? I might be able to say something, I don't know... btw I STILL haven't had a chance to listen to your podcast with @ssica3003, but @_awbery_ spoke very highly of it, and I look forward to it!

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    4. Jared Janes‏ @JaredJanes 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @LC_Ceriello and

      Well we could do a compare on the article I mentioned (linked here) but my thought was that meta-rationality would likely fall under the metamodern label that @GregDember & @LC_Ceriello outline, so even your .02 on Vajra. correlations would be interesting.https://medium.com/what-is-metamodern/after-postmodernism-eleven-metamodern-methods-in-the-arts-767f7b646cae …

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    5. Greg Dember‏ @GregDember 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @JaredJanes @Meaningness and

      I don't know a lot about meta-rationality. I'm interested in how it may be a phenomenon of metamodernism. I realize it's probably hard to capture in a tweet, but could you give the nutshell of how you see the connection?

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    6. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @GregDember @JaredJanes and

      I take metamodernism to be the cultural aspect of meta-systematicity, and meta-rationality to be the cognitive aspect. This usage may not be standard, but we are inventing this stuff as we go along! https://meaningness.com/eggplant/terms pic.twitter.com/8SP9eFlXiG

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    7. Greg Dember‏ @GregDember 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @JaredJanes and

      Thanks, David. Are you familiar with the body of work in academic humanities and cultural criticism emanating from the 2010 "Notes on Metamodernism" by Vermeulen & van den Akker, who I'm pretty sure got the term out there before integral/meta-rationality/etc folks began using it?

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    8. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @GregDember @JaredJanes and

      Yes; probably not all of it, but I think I read everything that google was able to find as of two years ago

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    9. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @GregDember and

      FWIW, I find the “transcend and include” formulation of metamodernism more interesting than the “oscillation” formulation. Perhaps the oscillatory version is a better fit to actually-existing cultural production (as of 2010, or even now) but it seems to have less future potential

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    10. Greg Dember‏ @GregDember 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @JaredJanes and

      It's important to note that "oscillation" doesn't mean oscillation between any two poles, but specifically between pairs of mod/Pomo opposites. And... just as "modernism" & "postmodernism" were/are terms used to describe observed cultural artifacts, that's how we're using MM.

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 27 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @GregDember @JaredJanes and

      Thanks, yes, that’s the way I understood oscillation I think.

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        2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 27 Oct 2019
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          Replying to @Meaningness @GregDember and

          “Modernity” & “postmodernity” are understood as wider categories than just artistic production; “metamodernity” seems like it could be (and in fact is) also used more broadly. That said, I’d prefer to use “meta-systematicity” for the broad phenomenon, for the reason you adduce

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        3. David Farr‏ @dfarrrr 27 Oct 2019
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