Research doesn't get taught, there's few to no classes about it. People usually teach themselves and learn by example from supervisors and colleagues.
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Learning by example from supervisors and colleagues is teaching in the sense I mean. I don't mean bad-epistemology "teaching". I mean "there is some knowledge in an existing system which gets (semi reliably) transferred to a person who wants to learn this existing knowledge".
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But if
@Crit_Rat is observing other researchers then guessing what’s happening with minimal input from those others unless he asks them...that’s rather non-coercive, no?1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes -
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Which would be great if it were available to everyone — rather than requiring a) school, and/or b) the ability to do research in the first place.
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Take someone who doesn't want to do university courses, but does want to get into research, and doesn't already know how to do effective research. What options does such a person have?
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Replying to @reasonisfun @ToKTeacher and
Hmm…. it might depend on what field you want to do research in? Probably you need to join a community of practice. Nowadays those are virtually always controlled by increasingly-dysfunctional institutions with high barriers to entry.
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Replying to @Meaningness @reasonisfun and
Possibly you can find an eccentric individual mentor (but that has obvious downsides). A few research institutions are independent of universities and industry, but mostly they demand a graduate degree, and aren’t interested in fostering learning as such.
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Replying to @Meaningness @reasonisfun and
It’s obvious to many people that something has to replace research universities, or at least supplement them, because they don’t work well anymore. However, no one has more than a vague sense of what that might be.
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Right; but in what framework? Who pays for it? How is everyone involved incentivized (financially and in prestige and curiosity satisfaction)? Who is accountable for what, and to whom, and how is that evaluated?
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Replying to @Meaningness @maxmare and
The apprenticeship system in architecture is a really interesting model that probably science could learn from.
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Replying to @maxmare @Jonathan_Blow and
I believe, or at least hope, you are right! The next step is to work out enough details to get critical mass of people to agree that it’s feasible, so they contribute energy toward implementation
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