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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. Lucy Keer‏ @drossbucket 11 Oct 2019
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      I was actually wondering about the history, as I wasn't around for LW 1.0. I thought the cognitive bias stuff was quite central to the LW project, after all it's called Less Wrong...

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    2. Lucy Keer‏ @drossbucket 11 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @drossbucket @xuenay @Meaningness

      ... but was it actually all that popular a topic, or just what was in the air ~2008 (like atheism)? I certainly don't see that much of it there any more, just lots of AI.

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    3. Lucy Keer‏ @drossbucket 11 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @drossbucket @xuenay @Meaningness

      I did read *Thinking* (without having read EY) around 2010, and swallowed it uncritically, so I'm in no position to crow at anyone else for doing that now :)

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    4. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @drossbucket @xuenay

      FWIW I learned the original Kahneman & Tversky stuff in an intro cognitive psychology class in 1979. It’s a robust collection of effects, which is what cog psych needs (they realized already back then that a lot of results tend to evaporate if you push on them).

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    5. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @drossbucket @xuenay

      Would be interesting to understand of how the field moved from that into the System 1/2 delusion. It’s easy to see how they could just pick up the rational vs irrational folk theory that goes back to Ancient Greece, but why did no one call bs on it?

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    6. Lucy Keer‏ @drossbucket 11 Oct 2019
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      Sounds like people did call bs, including one of the authors of that paper (must be sick of it now if he started in 1989...) But not enough people, by the sound of it.pic.twitter.com/8xQxflsaDi

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    7. Adam Strandberg‏ @The_Lagrangian 11 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @drossbucket @Meaningness @xuenay

      I happened to see the other day that TF&S has been on NYT bestseller list for >200 weeks straight

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    8. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @The_Lagrangian @drossbucket @xuenay

      David Chapman Retweeted David Chapman

      There’s an unbounded market for simplistic psychological theorieshttps://twitter.com/Meaningness/status/1079805367817625603 …

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      Replying to @literalbanana
      if this isn’t subtweeting my last, it’s a startling coincidence… this table is apparently drawn from Kahneman’s book (which I haven’t read), but could be straight out of the psychology column of _Cosmopolitan_ magazine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_process_theory#Systems … pic.twitter.com/GyyEYJ9nK2
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    9. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 Oct 2019
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      David Chapman Retweeted David Chapman

      … although this theory of the appeal of dual process theory may only explain its appeal to LW, not the modal buyer sampled by the NYThttps://twitter.com/Meaningness/status/1153336343642005504 …

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      David Chapman @Meaningness
      Dual process theory never made sense as science. Its appeal has to be understood psychoanalytically. It's a strategy for strengthening the goodself (ego ideal), identified with rationality, against the badself (id), identified as irrationality. https://meaningness.com/metablog/guru-papers-monism-control … pic.twitter.com/WwSN3au33r
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    10. Adam Strandberg‏ @The_Lagrangian 11 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @drossbucket @xuenay

      One of the mainstream appeals is for “unconscious bias” training- at least that was the focus of a recent book club reading TF&S at my job

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @The_Lagrangian @drossbucket @xuenay

      oh god

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        1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 Oct 2019
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          I guess that’s explicitly goodself vs badself

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