E.g. bat and ball answer is intentional (a 'Type 2' trait) - you're trying to answer the question. But also uncontrollable ('Type 1') - you get the stupid 10 cents answer whether you like it or not.pic.twitter.com/j1yeEzpNBL
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E.g. bat and ball answer is intentional (a 'Type 2' trait) - you're trying to answer the question. But also uncontrollable ('Type 1') - you get the stupid 10 cents answer whether you like it or not.pic.twitter.com/j1yeEzpNBL
Lots more interesting background on this paper and other recent criticism of the 'Type 1'/'Type 2' split in @xuenay's post:https://www.lesswrong.com/s/ZbmRyDN8TCpBTZSip/p/HbXXd2givHBBLxr3d …
In the "what on earth got the Berkeley rationalists so confused" department, _Thinking Fast And Slow_ plays a starring role. One of their dismissals of any critique of rationalism is "yes, we know System 1 is important and honor it!"
Nitpick: AFAIK, _Thinking_ didn't have that big of an impact on the LW crowd, because EY's writing had largely popularized much of the same research that "Thinking" did.
I was actually wondering about the history, as I wasn't around for LW 1.0. I thought the cognitive bias stuff was quite central to the LW project, after all it's called Less Wrong...
... but was it actually all that popular a topic, or just what was in the air ~2008 (like atheism)? I certainly don't see that much of it there any more, just lots of AI.
I did read *Thinking* (without having read EY) around 2010, and swallowed it uncritically, so I'm in no position to crow at anyone else for doing that now :)
FWIW I learned the original Kahneman & Tversky stuff in an intro cognitive psychology class in 1979. It’s a robust collection of effects, which is what cog psych needs (they realized already back then that a lot of results tend to evaporate if you push on them).
Would be interesting to understand of how the field moved from that into the System 1/2 delusion. It’s easy to see how they could just pick up the rational vs irrational folk theory that goes back to Ancient Greece, but why did no one call bs on it?
Sounds like people did call bs, including one of the authors of that paper (must be sick of it now if he started in 1989...) But not enough people, by the sound of it.pic.twitter.com/8xQxflsaDi
Ahah! Very interesting... so then the question is “what incentives led most of the field to ignore the nay-sayers.” At a guess, dual process theory developed a reliable way of turning out publishable papers with minimal effort…
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