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David Chapman
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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 10 Sep 2019
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    _Meaningness_, the book, is weirdly bimodal. It clicks for some readers; others find it nonsensical. I'd like to test a hypothesis from @andy_matuschak: it makes sense to meditators. Do you meditate? Does it make sense? (Please don't answer unless you've attempted to read.)

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      2. Brian Marick‏ @marick 10 Sep 2019
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        Replying to @Meaningness @andy_matuschak

        It clicked; I did not meditate at the time, though I've since started. I'm inclined to click "clicks & meditate", but I'll leave that to you.

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      3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 10 Sep 2019
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        Replying to @marick @andy_matuschak

        I guess, to avoid skewing results, it would be best to choose whatever seems most intuitively right to you! I wish twitter polls were less restrictive, so you could write better questions and answers, but they're designed for clickbait entertainment, not Science :(

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      2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 10 Sep 2019
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        Replying to @bchjam @andy_matuschak

        > experiential systems geekery as a relevant factor That seems right! I have some other hypotheses about who it works for and why. Maybe I should do some amateur psychological science, as @slatestarcodex does.

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      2. Miikka Koskinen‏ @arcatan 10 Sep 2019
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        Replying to @Meaningness @andy_matuschak

        Do you count it as meditation if I have tried meditation but do not do it regularly? For what it’s worth, Meaningness makes a lot of sense to me.

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      3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 10 Sep 2019
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        Replying to @arcatan @andy_matuschak

        I guess, to avoid skewing results, it would be best to choose whatever seems most intuitively right to you! I wish twitter polls were less restrictive, so I could write better questions and answers, but they're designed for clickbait entertainment, not Science :(

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      2. Mihaly Borbely‏ @vizslah 10 Sep 2019
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        Replying to @Meaningness @andy_matuschak

        The nonsense side's sample size is way too low for this to provide any insight, unfortunately.

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      3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 10 Sep 2019
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        Replying to @vizslah @andy_matuschak

        It makes sense that only people who understand the book would answer, I guess! Anecdotally, many smart people say it sounds like vague incoherent rambling woo to them

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      2. Malcolm  ☣️cean - check sense of smell  👃 —  🌎 🇨🇦‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 10 Sep 2019
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        Replying to @Meaningness @andy_matuschak

        "clicked; no-med" b/c it clicked for me back in 2016 when I hadn't really done much meditation. Probably wouldn't've clicked before 2015. Hard to say exactly what made that difference. My 2016 meaningness deep-dive was inspired by an acute need for more fluid collaboration.

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      3. Malcolm  ☣️cean - check sense of smell  👃 —  🌎 🇨🇦‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 10 Sep 2019
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        I'm guessing meaningness clicks iff you've had meta-experience X, which many people get through meditation but not everybody does, and it can also be acquired elsewise. What is X? A glimpse of fluid mode? Some spark of the reality of nebulosity? Experience of limits of system?

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