There is a pervasive pattern of discussion about “rationalism” versus “post-rationalism” versus “meta-rationalism” and various other ways of trying to carve reasoning up into movements or communities or ideologies. This is all a mistake.
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@AE_Robbert@cognazor). This post distinguishes three sorts of critiques of rationalism: irrational ones, anti-rational ones, and meta-rational ones. Their grounds and types of reasoning are all quite different.https://meaningness.com/metablog/rationalism-critiques …3 replies 0 retweets 21 likes -
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“Post-rational” was the slogan of some members of the Berkeley/LW “rationalist” subculture who were disenchanted with some aspects of it. I was never part of that, and only address it in passing. My critique addresses much more mainstream ideas.https://twitter.com/RealtimeAI/status/1158425139421360129 …
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“Meta-rationality” is a term I coined for a particular type of reasoning. This type of reasoning would count as rational by the definition “likely to be effective.” It does not reject rationality. It is, however, quite *different from* formal/technical/systematic rationality.
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I’m rejecting the definition that you are calling formal/technical/systemic rationality. If one of those is too limited to encompass a better theory, I call that irrational. Rationality must be “likely to be effective” within what we know and are trying to.
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So I’m explicitly just advocating a different semantics. I have what I take to be *reasons* for preferring my semantics. I think it is “likely to be effective” at keeping broad communication more easy and productive.
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I would be very happy to find better words! The book I am writing frequently stresses that by “rationality” it means specifically technical/formal/systematic rationality. I don’t know of any other word for that, and can’t think of a better concise term.
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Ya just don’t use one. Or make up an esoteric one. You’ve chosen to almost cross your wires. “This way of thing is irrational. I’ll call it “rationalism.””
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