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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 1 Aug 2019
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      “of that”, typo

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    2. Fate Of Twist‏ @FateOfTwist_ 2 Aug 2019
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      What do you not like about it, that it is in some sense misleading (like given differing interpretations of what "thought" is), or that it is outright false/there is more to it?

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    3. Benjamin Slayton‏ @SlaytonBenjamin 2 Aug 2019
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      Replying to @FateOfTwist_ @Meaningness

      The best technical translation of the description I have read is “a non-affirming negative phenomena” Berzin describes it as things cannot exist in impossible ways which I don’t think is as good as the first def. a negation which does not affirm some other thing.

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    4. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 2 Aug 2019
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      That’s a particular interpretation of emptiness, from Prasangika Madhyamaka. FWIW I think that interpretation has some unfortunate consequences, but I agree that it is metaphysically relatively unproblematic.

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    5. Benjamin Slayton‏ @SlaytonBenjamin 2 Aug 2019
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      What do you think are the consequences? To me it seems that is the most exact technical definition, the other schools seem to present the interpretation that bc it’s non conceptual/direct experience it can’t have a technical def. although it’s endlessly talked about/described.

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    6. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 2 Aug 2019
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      Hmm. It seems you think there is a single, specific thing that this word points at? I don’t there is. Explaining what’s wrong with Prasangika would take quite a few tweets (or a long book; Mipham’s _Beacon of Certainty_ is one standard source).

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    7. Benjamin Slayton‏ @SlaytonBenjamin 2 Aug 2019
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      It seems to be what all the schools converge/divide on. If there is something true to be discovered all the descriptions must point at the “specific thing” but the thing is an absence of a thing. If that makes any sense.

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    8. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 2 Aug 2019
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      That analysis presupposes the Prasangika conclusion: that “emptiness” is a mere negation. That is explicitly rejected by other schools (e.g. Nyingma and zhentong), which ascribe positive characteristics to it.

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    9. Benjamin Slayton‏ @SlaytonBenjamin 2 Aug 2019
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      I get that the presentation is different, as far as I understand it the Prasangika definition is the only concise technical definition. The Nyigma presentation seems more to me of the “cant have a definition/impossible to describe or explain, metaphysical explanation.

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    10. Benjamin Slayton‏ @SlaytonBenjamin 2 Aug 2019
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      I have the impression they disagree about their descriptions but are in fact describing the same thing.

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 2 Aug 2019
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      OK… I probably disagree but the whole field is so muddy that it’s hard to make any definite statements.

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