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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 22 Jul 2019
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      Liberal application of science-y jargon has not rescued the 2500+ year delusion that Man's Essential Nature is divided between Animal Passions and Divine Reason.https://twitter.com/robsica/status/1152577864526471170?s=20 …

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      Rob @robsica
      (1/ 2) This article seems like kind of a big deal: one of the seminal proponents of dual process theory of reasoning here making substantial and extensive concessions to the evidential, experimental and theoretical challenges raised... https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13546783.2019.1623071 …
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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 22 Jul 2019
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      Dual process theory never made sense as science. Its appeal has to be understood psychoanalytically. It's a strategy for strengthening the goodself (ego ideal), identified with rationality, against the badself (id), identified as irrationality. https://meaningness.com/metablog/guru-papers-monism-control …pic.twitter.com/WwSN3au33r

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        2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 22 Jul 2019
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          The dual-process fantasy was that "we" (the rationality modules) could finally win the forever-war against the evil irrationality modules by enumerating their weapons ("cognitive biases") and defeating them with superior technology.

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 22 Jul 2019
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          We can and must think better; and understanding how we do think now can help. That understanding has to come from detailed naturalistic observations, not self-control fantasies of idealized rationality in a Platonic paradise.

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        2. simpolism‏ @simpolism 24 Jul 2019
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          Replying to @Meaningness

          What if the goodself is bad? Could we have civilized norms without an ego ideal?

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 24 Jul 2019
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          Yeah the explanation in the Guru Papers (book I cited) is that it’s not nearly as good as it pretends, and may be bad on balance (although mixed). And, yes I think one could, although that may require an adult+ stage of moral development. Whether society-wide... I don’t know. 1/2

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        1. Nathan Spears‏ @spearofsolomon 22 Jul 2019
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          It's so beautiful that rationality, which is excellent at lumping things into categories, divines (heh) that all thinking is either rational or irrational. It's logical, therefore it must be true. Help I'm stuck in a logic factory!

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