I wouldn’t put any money down that it will be “extinct” as in “vanished from the earth”, but I would not expect it to be a live player
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Replying to @Timber_22 @SpeakingSubject and
There will be texts of course. Anyone who can actually teach it? I’d guess not, but predicting beyond the lifetime of current teachers is highly uncertain. I suspect it is alive now only because of Western interest; it would be dead already if it depended on Tibetans.
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Replying to @Meaningness @SpeakingSubject and
I’m not sure if I can fully get on board with your last statement. Clearly, though, Western interest has infused a lot of energy and resources into it. Lately, too there is interest from Chinese people. (Anecdote: there’s a prominent & well-regarded qi gong master...
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...who also identifies as Tibetan Buddhist. Don’t know which lineage.)
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I recall that one point you looked at the question of: what would an updated distribution of vajrayana (using the word in the usual sense, encompasses tantra + dzogchen/ati) for WEIRD 21st c. people look like? How would it function? And it it sounded like you decided not to..
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Replying to @Timber_22 @Meaningness and
...pursue because a) too huge an endeavour b) you literally weren’t qualified (in the formal sense...didn’t have the empowerments) c) project maybe wasn’t worth the effort required All that said, it’s ironic and poignant that dzogchen might not endure
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Yes officially the project is abandoned but
@_awbery_ and I go in endless circles of “this is really important! we should do it because no one else is going to” and “the obstacles are insuperable and also we have other things to do and also also probably aren’t up to the job.”1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @Meaningness @SpeakingSubject and
I agree that the obstacles are insuperable (or, if not that, they at least approach absolute insuperability asymptotically)
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I •do• want to say that, having read your work for several years now (and recently begun with
@_awbery_ ‘s) that the two of you have some impressive talents for communicating. So while I don’t want to encourage you to embark on a quixotic project...1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @Timber_22 @Meaningness and
...you two could very likely do the job (because, of course, you wouldn’t do it alone, and because you’d bring the requisite boldness + humility.) Not saying you •should•. (Probably, you shouldn’t. )
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Probably, we shouldn’t.
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