I’ve posted an audio monolog prompted by @evantthompson’s comment, recorded by @_awbery_. Most of it is not directly responsive, although we did get to the point at the end. The accompanying text notes may be more relevant.
Comments welcome!https://meaningness.com/metablog/buddhism-cognitivism-podcast …
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Replying to @Meaningness @SpeakingSubject and
As an outsider to Theravada-derived practice, it’s questionable for me to express doubts about it. However, I’ve had serious reservations for a decade or more, as I’ve occasionally written. Due to both ignorance and wanting to avoid sectarianism, I’ve avoided being too explicit.
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Replying to @Meaningness @SpeakingSubject and
I have found myself in strong agreement with what
@evantthompson has said in this discussion.@_awbery_ and I have discussed this extensively for years. This on-going project emerges in part from that:https://vajrayananow.wordpress.com/2019/06/01/journaling-a-staged-path/ …3 replies 1 retweet 7 likes -
Replying to @Meaningness @evantthompson and
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts about why Dzogchen, and in particular the state of mind it tends toward, is different. Could you speak to this?
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Replying to @SpeakingSubject @evantthompson and
I most try to convey in my writing that different Buddhisms *are* radically different. The "Consensus Buddhist" framework denied this, and successfully obscured it for three decades. Once differences are admitted, one can ask which are good tools for specific purposes.
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Replying to @Meaningness @SpeakingSubject and
No extant system is free from severe flaws, or best for all purposes. Dzogchen has flaws that are probably fatal. People will still be doing Mahasi-Lite
in 100 years; Dzogchen will probably be extinct.2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes -
Replying to @Meaningness @SpeakingSubject and
OK this is interesting to me, from a speculative history stance (and a few others.) What do you see as the flaws within Dozgchen that are potentially fatal? Why won’t it be practiced in 100 years? (I agree that Mahasi-esque noting practices will likely last a long time)
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Replying to @Timber_22 @SpeakingSubject and
> the flaws within Dozgchen Product-market fit based on segmentation dynamics that no longer obtain; providers unable to pivot positioning strategy.
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Replying to @Timber_22 @Meaningness and
Yes, and... if called in as a consultant, I’d add not just a positioning question, the distribution model is broken
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Yup yup yup.
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