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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 24 Jun 2019
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      If you are up for reading a book, the “show notes” point at several that are squarely about this. Varela, @evantthompson, & Rosch’s is probably the most readable! There’s lots of ways of coming at this, and it’s hard to write up in less than a book and more than a phrase.

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    2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 24 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @OortCloudAtlas and

      In a phrase: what physical properties could a thing-in-your-head have that would make it represent the fact that Ouagadougou is the capital of Burkina Faso?

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    3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 24 Jun 2019
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      By 1990 it became apparent that no answer to that was possible, even in principle. Once you bite that bullet, the whole cognitivist project collapses.

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    4. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 24 Jun 2019
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      Then you can start to think about alternatives. There’s lots of appealing starting points, but so far none of them have led to a generative research program that can regularly crank out concrete substantive results. No “normal science” yet; it’s “pre-paradigm” in Kuhn’s terms.

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    5. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 24 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @OortCloudAtlas and

      Somewhat relatedly: I find Culadasa’s appeals to cognitive science and/or neuroscience unconvincing and potentially misleading. Very short on details/footnotes; it seems to be a vague rehash of mainly 1980s-era stuff that has been discredited for decades.

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    6. Parletre‏ @SpeakingSubject 24 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @OortCloudAtlas and

      What do you have in mind in particular?

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    7. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 24 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @SpeakingSubject @OortCloudAtlas and

      Well… a proper analysis would be a long post and would be interpreted as a nasty attack on a nice person. But, for example, >

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    8. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 24 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @SpeakingSubject and

      He’s heavily influenced by Minsky’s 1985 _Society of Mind_, which he does cite (p441) although he gets Minsky’s first name wrong :(

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    9. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 24 Jun 2019
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      I was a student of Minsky’s. He was a genius, and the book had a huge impact in 1985, but within a few years it was apparent that the theory is unworkable, and no one in cognitive science has taken it seriously since. It’s a fascinating historical curiosity of a dead end.

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    10. Parletre‏ @SpeakingSubject 24 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @Meaningness @OortCloudAtlas and

      I remember reading this book in the early 90s. In brief, why was his theory unworkable?

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 24 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @SpeakingSubject @OortCloudAtlas and

      It doesn’t ground into something specific enough to gain traction. There isn’t an in-principle failure, but none of the terms are definite enough to make it possible to take the project further, test it, implement it, or draw conclusions.

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