I'm currently entertaining a theory that there's an interesting cluster of ideas somewhere in the intersection of Gendlen (Focusing), Merleau-Ponty (Phenomenology of Perception) and Keagen (Developmental Stages). Anyone who has done the reading want to just hand me the insight?
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This may seem like an unlikely combination of books for my to find someone to crib notes but TBH I think I can name somewhere between three and ten followers who I'd expect to be familiar with all of these.
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Replying to @DRMacIver
Read bits of all of these so I probably count for half of one of those people. You'll have to look elsewhere for the insight, but it's plausible to me that there is one!
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Damn, you were one of the ones I thought most likely to have read all three. *adjusts estimates downwards slightly*
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In case I was another possible... I don’t know Gendlin although I have had extremely good intentions to rectify that for several years.
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I gather he’s influenced by phenomenology (Heidegger?) so an overlap with MP makes sense. Kegan doesn’t have significant influence from phenomenology afaic remember, and doesn’t much talk about embodiment afaicr either.
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The thing I thought was likely a link there is that Gendlin has a lot of things to say about development and based on the Kegan video I watched they seem to have pretty aligned (not the same so much as complementary) values about what that should look like.
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Roughly the link I'm looking at is Kegan & Gendlin: Development Gendlin & Merleau-Ponty: Embodiment and Perception Kegan & Merleau-Ponty: ??? (don't currently understand either half well enough to say)
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Well, I did read M-P 30 years ago. I can’t remember much. He has some fascinating clinical case studies. I thought his theoretical points were all obvious (albeit obviously true). OTOH that’s probably because I’d absorbed them from downstream sources, and he originated them.
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Synthesizing Kegan with any body-oriented view, or more generally with a framework that prioritizes specifics and situatedness seems likely to be productive.
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Kegan does rely heavily on edited transcripts of therapy sessions, so it’s not ungrounded, but then he jumps to extreme abstractions, and it’s often frustrating how much middle ground is missing. Especially in 4->5 transition which is what I’m most interested in currently.
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The Eggplant book is roughly a synthesis of Kegan with the ethnomethodology of science, which is hyper-specific. Again too specific, so I’m having to fill in the middle ground, but it’s a productive contrast.
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Afaicr, no one has applied ethnomethodology to therapy, which I think could be extremely productive. The funding for the field currently comes for nursing communication studies, which is in some sense adjacent? so maybe an extension is pragmatically possible.
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