I have found myself in strong agreement with what @evantthompson has said in this discussion.
@_awbery_ and I have discussed this extensively for years. This on-going project emerges in part from that:https://vajrayananow.wordpress.com/2019/06/01/journaling-a-staged-path/ …
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Replying to @Meaningness @evantthompson and
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts about why Dzogchen, and in particular the state of mind it tends toward, is different. Could you speak to this?
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Replying to @SpeakingSubject @evantthompson and
I most try to convey in my writing that different Buddhisms *are* radically different. The "Consensus Buddhist" framework denied this, and successfully obscured it for three decades. Once differences are admitted, one can ask which are good tools for specific purposes.
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Replying to @Meaningness @SpeakingSubject and
No extant system is free from severe flaws, or best for all purposes. Dzogchen has flaws that are probably fatal. People will still be doing Mahasi-Lite
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Replying to @Meaningness @SpeakingSubject and
Vajrayana in general, and Dzogchen in particular, have goals that are more compatible with what people want now than Sutrayana does. They are at least pointing in an attractive direction, and 20th C modernist Theravada isn't afaics.https://vividness.live/2013/10/24/sutra-tantra-and-the-modern-worldview/ …
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Replying to @Meaningness @SpeakingSubject and
"Dzogchen" covers a multitude of evils and any contemporary use of it requires extensive reworking. Also it was always a hyper-advanced practice and on the whole I think trying to explain it popularly now is pointless... so I've mostly written about tantra instead.
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Replying to @Meaningness @SpeakingSubject and
Tantra would also require drastic reworking to make it useful now, but it's more understandable than Dzogchen, and we do have examples of successful popular deployments.https://vividness.live/2019/04/24/reinventing-buddhist-tantra-annotated-table-of-contents/ …
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Replying to @Meaningness @SpeakingSubject and
Vajrayana generally aims for "empty form" which is intensely meaningful. Whatever defects it has, nihilism is not one...https://buddhism-for-vampires.com/drinking-the-sun …
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Replying to @Meaningness @SpeakingSubject and
David, can you point me to something of yours discussing nihilism? Based on some of your usages, I suspect that our understanding of that term may differ significantly.
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Replying to @non_buddhism @SpeakingSubject and
Overview here. It's the introduction to a chapter that's only about 20% written but you can probably get the gist. I think my usage is pretty much in line with the Western philosophical tradition's, and not far from the Madhyamaka conception either.https://meaningness.com/nihilism
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I'd be curious to hear how your usage differs?
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