@evantthompson has written a very helpful comment on my 1st post on Pragmatic Dharma. https://parletre.wordpress.com/2011/06/07/test-post/#comment-21 …
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I’ve posted an audio monolog prompted by
@evantthompson’s comment, recorded by@_awbery_. Most of it is not directly responsive, although we did get to the point at the end. The accompanying text notes may be more relevant. Comments welcome!https://meaningness.com/metablog/buddhism-cognitivism-podcast …4 replies 3 retweets 22 likes -
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As an outsider to Theravada-derived practice, it’s questionable for me to express doubts about it. However, I’ve had serious reservations for a decade or more, as I’ve occasionally written. Due to both ignorance and wanting to avoid sectarianism, I’ve avoided being too explicit.
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Given that caveat, please express them in a tentative form so that we can use them as food for further thought.
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I’m not sure I can add to what
@evantthompson has said. But to recapitulate some points: - Concepts about meditation significantly affect the experience - The concepts derive from doctrines that are mostly obviously wrong and probably often harmful1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes -
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- I don’t believe in meditative maps as representations a reality independent of the ideology that generates it. Which is not to say that they can’t be valuable, nor that they are entirely arbitrary or artificial
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- 20th C vipassana was invented by guys who were into extreme renunciative asceticism, and the simplified contemporary versions seem to retain significant renunciative elements that may be inappropriate for people whose own aims are not renunciative
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- The aims of the practice seem nihilistic to me. It is unsurprising that it can result in severe depression. I’d like to see a more prominent warning label, and more open discussion of whether aiming for death-in-life is what anyone should want.
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I think that element of it is undeniable but I guess what matters is how and whether modern day practitioners, wherever they might be, face up to that aspect of their tradition. Is it integrated, challenged, or ignored? I imagine they have compensatory strategies.
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I think it has been deliberately obscured. Then it comes out unexpectedly in practice experience and causes trouble. I am skeptical it can be integrated.
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