It also helped to appreciate that ppl are importantly different in how they behave, motivate, and believe, and that I was in a weird esoteric discipline space which most ppl were not capable of going to.
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I don't think it would be kind to sell postrat view to ppl who haven't stumbled off the stage 4 precipice. But this is not really a problem because it sounds like gibberish to ppl who are secure in their reality tunnel.
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"sell" sounds a little weird to me in this context, but I agree with you that trying to force one point of view over another on some one who has to make up their mind for themselves would not be an optimal road to take. Yet, there's society. Doing just that. All the time. To all.
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Kind of moot, b/c it seems ppl can't go there unless they both have weird turn of mind and are ready/have no choice, but eg. think about how stage 4.25 pomo and critical theory is being pushed to ppl who are not really even at 4. I'm maybe at 4.62, and it is not a happy place.
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Replying to @robamacl @sadmoonanalog
This is the first time I’ve seen three digits—love it! Maybe we should have an -ometer?
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More seriously, I’ve wondered if some sort of self-assessment tool could be useful. Doing a serious job of it would take serious science that I’m not up for, but but maybe even an amateurish “for entertainment purposes only” version would be of some use.
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Of course, it might also be worse than useless. Psychology is hard.
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Replying to @Meaningness @sadmoonanalog
Hmmm, I might know enough psych methods to do a bad job. Re personality psych, it seems that ppl on my Twitters who have mentioned it are >99% on openness, <10% on agreeableness, and probably high on neuroticism.
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Starting point would be to make a list of attitudes. OFC there is no ground truth on what is most meta-rational, unlikely it is neatly one dimensional.
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Replying to @robamacl @sadmoonanalog
Yes, I did some very preliminary thinking on this, and thought that semi-separate scoring on different “lines” (as Wilber puts it) would probably be necessary. Eg questions re fundamental subject/object issues; relationships; ethics; concepts of society; of rationality; ….
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It seems that these don’t develop as much in parallel as Kegan’s story would have it. (Décalage, to use the jargon of the field.)
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