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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 May 2019
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      Boghossian is infamous AGAIN for attacking anti-rational pseudo-academic work in what he calls "grievance studies." He tells @peternlimberg that he's had a deluge of "I never thought I'd say this to you of all people but I'm 100% with you" support from fundamentalists.

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    2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 May 2019
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      Boghossian suggests that, in a Great Realignment, the major axis of politics may be shifting to rational vs anti-rational, systematic vs anti-systematic, collapsing the old left/right distinction. I suggested something similar in 2016: https://meaningness.com/metablog/communal-vs-systematic-politics …pic.twitter.com/MKoetzBkAI

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    3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 May 2019
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      He points also to developing alliances between groups that ignore their left/right differences to join in anti-rational causes. He cites a divisive "wokeness" movement within fundamentalism (first I've heard of this). Feminist-Islamist alliances might be another example?

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    4. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 May 2019
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      Boghossian says he thinks the anti-rational insurgency will necessarily collapse because it has no structure of justification. I am less optimistic: Removing any feeling of need for justification is exactly why it is powerful and attractive! https://meaningness.com/metablog/communal-vs-systematic-politics …pic.twitter.com/rhFxvWSRlL

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    5. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 May 2019
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      The fact is, most people don't care about rational justifications. Those were always an elite affectation. Elites conspired to keep political discourse within systematic rules, but twitter ended that. Boghossian wrings his hands over this loss; I imagine 4chan & SJWs laughing.pic.twitter.com/gIMuv4Ql5X

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    6. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 May 2019
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      Given a choice between rationalism & anti-rationalism, I will unhesitatingly choose the first. Until we create something better—which I hope we will—rationalist institutions are absolutely necessary to our survival. But the age of rationalism has passed.https://meaningness.com/metablog/rationalism-critiques …

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    7. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 May 2019
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      Interviewing @peterboghossian, I would have been less polite than @peternlimberg, and pressed him with "yes, and"s. Standpoint epistemology is not entirely wrong; we do all have limited knowledge and understanding, which is partly a matter of social position; this does matter.

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    8. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 May 2019
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      (I should say that it's a GREAT interview and I recommend listening! Both participants were really sharp and interesting.)https://anchor.fm/intellectualexplorersclub/episodes/Peter-Boghoassian---The-Great-Realignment-e3vobd …

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    9. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 May 2019
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      Intersectionality can be misused as an inverted standard of value, but it's a real thing. My black female immigrant lover got specific types of flak that people in any two of those three categories would not have faced.

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    10. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 May 2019
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      Postmodernism is invoked as all-purpose backing for "you have to do whatever I want you to, because my feelings, facts be damned"; but the overall postmodern critique of rationalism is actually correct. There are no ultimate foundations anywhere.

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 May 2019
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      Can we oppose anti-rationalist political movements effectively while acknowledging that their grievances and their critiques of rationalist institutions and their esoteric epistemologies are partly justified? Wouldn't that be MORE effective?

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        2. against utopia  🏴‏ @againstutopia 11 May 2019
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          have you read Jane Jacobs? I read her directly instead of through Nassim Taleb and James C Scott, and her _Dark Age Ahead_ is basically what you've been saying. She looks at modern institutions and probes why they are failing, with a few spot on predictions to boot

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 May 2019
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          Thanks! I know only the name; I’ve downloaded the sample to Kindle.

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        2. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 11 May 2019
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          Both Occupy and the Tea Party objected to a problem I think is real: monopoly of power through force by a tiny elite. Nothing inherently irrational about that. But "rationalism" has been so closely associated with elite authoritarianism that rebels embrace irrationalism.

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 May 2019
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          Yes, exactly! I was trying to say that in the post; maybe it didn’t come through

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        2. David R. MacIver‏ @DRMacIver 11 May 2019
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          Yeah. One of my great sources of frustation is that I have these big two foundational areas of knowledge that have informed how I think about everything, and each of them agree on basically only one thing: That the other one is literally Hitler.

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        3. David R. MacIver‏ @DRMacIver 11 May 2019
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          Unfortunately being the one in the middle saying "Um I think it's more complicated than that" does not endear you to people.

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        2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 May 2019
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          Simply put, rationalism is attractive because it wants to be true, anti-rationalism because it wants to be right. Meta rationalism is subtle, but neither intellectually nor morally compelling. To make it spiritually attractive, you would have to go down the charismatic route

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        1. Somatic Historian‏ @ScottParkCO 11 May 2019
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          I think @ScottAdamsSays idea of filters is more productive. Consensus Buddhism is a filter that stops people from being able to see actual Buddhism, much less Buddhism for Vampires. Politics then becomes the game of using or getting around mass filters.

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        2. Maynard Handley‏ @handleym99 11 May 2019
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          At least one part of this is to distinguish between politeness, politics, and theory. What does "feminism" (or any other ism) "mean"? 1/

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        3. Maynard Handley‏ @handleym99 11 May 2019
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          The (mostly) non-controversial part is politeness -- behave decently towards the relevant group. 2/

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