OK, help me out here. What is this smell in "for men" products actually supposed to be? Why is it there? Who the fuck likes it? I'm trialling some new shaving products and it hadn't occurred to me how for men they would be and now I reek of weird musk. 


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David R. MacIver Retweeted Bertine van Hövell ⛓ Home
Apparently the answer is that it's literally musk. Also apparently there are circumstances under which my mute keywords for Grimes's boyfriend are a bit overly broad.https://twitter.com/lostagainb/status/1123520385058770949 …
David R. MacIver added,
Bertine van Hövell ⛓ Home @lostagainbReplying to @DRMacIverIt's 'musk' as in, deer musk. It's long considered an aphrodesiac for women because of bad science (yes, animal musk has pheromones, no, they don't work on humans. Really, is that deer so much more attractive now you can smell it?) Anyway, so that scent got associated w men.2 replies 0 retweets 15 likesShow this thread -
Replying to @DRMacIver
Only very expensive stuff uses the natural product. Synthetic chemicals with similar smells are much cheaper and more common. I spent a year doing computational chemistry on those, because life is strange.
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Replying to @Meaningness @DRMacIver
I ranted about how stupid and horrible musk-scents-for-men are to several women friends, who all said “uh... actually it’s really sexy.” I did not take the objectively correct course of action this evidence indicated, because I haz aspergs.
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Replying to @Meaningness
Hmm, interesting. When I've complained about this to women friends they've generally agreed I think. (Also I care much more about smelling good to me than to people I want to be attractive to, a group which is definitely not exclusively women anyway)
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Replying to @DRMacIver @Meaningness
Yeah, I was gonna chime in and say I find those products bad-smelling and so do most of the women I know, and I also wouldn't want to be with anyone who makes life choices based on how sexy someone smells.
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Replying to @economeager @Meaningness
I think how sexy someone smells is a legitimate consideration, it's just... it's a nudge, not a critical factor. I can't imagine it on its own ever being the deciding factor, but attraction in general is an aggregate effect of many small factors.
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Oh also things can be fun without being an influence on decision making. (But musk still does not smell good and still isn't sexy)
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Replying to @DRMacIver @Meaningness
right but if it's not decisive for anyone we'd care about then it isn't correct to start using it. the asberger logic from above lead to the *actual* objectively correct action is what I'm saying.
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There’s some layers of irony in my tweet about objective correctness.
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